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SprootsMasterFlex 05-25-2011 03:04 PM

Compensation adjustment could lead to more offers for restricted NHL free agents
 
HF-Boards will go crazy on the proposals & FA signing ideas due to these changes.

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nhl/stor...ed-free-agents

“Find a team that is near the cap and you can really (mess) with them,” one NHL source said.


2011 restricted free agent compensation

An offer with a $1,034,249 annual cap hit or less: No compensation

More than $1,034,249 -- $1,567,043: Third-round pick

More than $1,567,043 -- $3,134,088: Second-round pick

More than $3,134,088 -- $4,701,131: First and third-round pick

More than $4,701,131 -- $6,268,175: First, second and third-round pick

More than $6,268,175 -- $7,835,219: Two first-round picks, a second and third

More than $7,835,219 and higher: Four first-round picks

Darth Vitale 05-25-2011 03:08 PM

Yah. That is a thought but the situation really is not much different than years past is it? What was last year's breakdown?

SprootsMasterFlex 05-25-2011 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malkochalek (Post 33239218)
Yah. That is a thought but the situation really is not much different than years past is it? What was last year's breakdown?

2010 Compensation
•$1,020,348 or below: No compensation.
•$1,020,348 to $1,545,981: A third-round draft choice.
•$1,545,981 to $3,091,963: A second round draft choice.
•$3,091,963 to $4,637,944: A first-round choice and a third-rounder.
•$4,637,944 to $6,183,925: A first- a second- and a third-rounder.
•$6,183,925 to $7,729,907: Two First-round choices, a second-rounder and a third-rounder.
•Over $7,729,907: Four first-rounders.

2009 Compensation
•$994,433 or below – None
•$994,433 to $1,506,716 – 3rd round pick
•$1,506,716 to $3,013,434 – 2nd round pick
•$3,013,434 to $4,520,150 – 1st and 3rd round pick
•$4,520,150 to $6,026,867 – 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round pick
•$6,026,867 to $7,533,584 – 2 1st round picks, a 2nd and 3rd round pick
•$7,533,584 – 4 1st round picks

2008 Compensation
•$863,156 or less – None
•$863,156 – $1,307,812 – 3rd round pick
•$1,307,812 – $2,615,625 – 2nd round pick
•$2,615,623 – $3,923,437 – 1st and 3rd round pick
•$3,923,437 – $5,231,249 – 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round pick
•$5,231,249 – $6,539,062 – Two 1st’s, one 2nd, one 3rd round pick
•$6,539,062 or more – Four 1st round picks

SprootsMasterFlex 05-25-2011 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malkochalek (Post 33239218)
Yah. That is a thought but the situation really is not much different than years past is it? What was last year's breakdown?

You have a point..... I thought it was more drastic that this.... I didn't realize it until I saw the previous years. Thanks ChiChi

JTG 05-25-2011 03:22 PM

So how exactly is that going to lead to more offers? I'm not seeing much difference at all.

GlenngarryGlencross 05-25-2011 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malkochalek (Post 33239218)
Yah. That is a thought but the situation really is not much different than years past is it? What was last year's breakdown?

The compensation levels keep rising to the point that teams who don't match an offer sheet may be screwed but that's always been the case with offer sheets.

Kennedy is a good example of this. Pens management probably has his value pegged somewhere between $1.5-2M but if another team comes over the top and offers him $2.5M Shero might decline to match and all we're left with is a measly 2nd round pick for a 4 years of player development. The player either receives a bloated salary or the team is stick with a relatively meaningless pick.

Either way I doubt much changes, most GMs avoid offer sheets as a matter of principle.

Darth Vitale 05-25-2011 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SprootsMasterFlex (Post 33239489)
You have a point..... I thought it was more drastic that this.... I didn't realize it until I saw the previous years. Thanks ChiChi

I aim to please. Also, ChiChi? WTH did that come from? I've been called some interesting names in my day but ChiChi might take the cake for best off-the-wall name. :laugh:

JTG 05-25-2011 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malkochalek (Post 33239637)
I aim to please. Also, ChiChi? WTH did that come from? I've been called some interesting names in my day but ChiChi might take the cake for best off-the-wall name. :laugh:

I will now only refer to you as ChiChi

Darth Vitale 05-25-2011 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JTG32005 (Post 33239664)
I will now only refer to you as ChiChi


Name change may be in order. This Malkochalek thing seemed not to work. Although one could argue with all the injuries, that the way we finished and competed down the stretch was not dissapoint. I get da feeling... as a fan... dat player care for one another.

IHWR 05-25-2011 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malkochalek (Post 33239767)
Name change may be in order. This Malkochalek thing seemed not to work. Although one could argue with all the injuries, that the way we finished and competed down the stretch was not dissapoint. I get da feeling... as a fan... dat player care for one another.

Hurry up and change your name, ChiChi.

I don't want to have to blame the Pens drafting an all-around defenseman in the first round but I will.

Darth Vitale 05-25-2011 03:46 PM

But what if Malkin and Michalek are my favorite offensive and defensive players? That makes my name catchy and clever. :sarcasm:

I don't know... we may need some consensus on this. Peer pressure might be the only thing that breaks me.

Hey for the summer at least (until it becomes an impossibility), I could change it to "Laich ChiChi". A mythical place where Stanley Cup Legends are born.

SprootsMasterFlex 05-25-2011 04:24 PM

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SprootsMasterFlex 05-25-2011 04:28 PM

TIOPS's last article triggered me to look at this.... in case anybody is wondering why I posted it initially... however, in hindsight (and thanks to ChiChi), it really shouldn't make an impact on Kennedy this summer.

http://insidepittsburghsports.com/st...ys-camp/38667/

Once again, thanks ChiChi :handclap:

Darth Vitale 05-25-2011 06:42 PM

DAMN YOUUU... damn you all to HELL!

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,163861,00.jpg







....wait a minute... something's off here. Can't quite place it.

JWells16 05-25-2011 06:58 PM

The topic of this thread changed abruptly.

Jonjmc 05-25-2011 07:29 PM

The reason you don't see offer sheets isn't because of some unwritten rule between GMs or some code of honor, the reason you don't see them is because it's the worst possible way to acquire talent. You not only have to overpay a RFA to be certain his team doesn't match, but you also have to give up draft picks.

Either overpay to sign an UFA or trade the picks to acquire the player, not both.

JTG 05-25-2011 07:37 PM

Yeah, the only way signing an RFA works is if you are in a position like Chicago was last season where they were forced to make decisions. Have to find teams that are smashed up against the ceiling.

Warm Cookies 05-25-2011 09:59 PM

I guess you could call the RFA issue a real pro challenge for Shero...

























































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regard 05-26-2011 06:38 AM

Yeah I dont think we have to worry about being offersheeted and like ChiChi said thats not much different than years past.

Id like to see the Rangers offersheeted this offseason while thier busy worrying about trying to sign Brad Richards. Callahan, Dubinsky, Anisimov and even Boyle.

azrok22 05-26-2011 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by regard (Post 33252767)
Yeah I dont think we have to worry about being offersheeted and like ChiChi said thats not much different than years past.

Id like to see the Rangers offersheeted this offseason while thier busy worrying about trying to sign Brad Richards. Callahan, Dubinsky, Anisimov and even Boyle.

Callahan, Dubinsky, and Boyle are all arbitration eligible, so like Parise, the chance for an offer sheet is essentially zero.

regard 05-26-2011 06:46 AM

Well that sucks.

Milliardo 05-26-2011 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonjmc (Post 33243840)
The reason you don't see offer sheets isn't because of some unwritten rule between GMs or some code of honor, the reason you don't see them is because it's the worst possible way to acquire talent. You not only have to overpay a RFA to be certain his team doesn't match, but you also have to give up draft picks.

Either overpay to sign an UFA or trade the picks to acquire the player, not both.

Pretty much. But this so called inwritten rule does exist. I don't think Shero would ever make an offer sheet. One day it will come back to haunt you. Plus you burn bridges for potential trades.

SprootsMasterFlex 05-26-2011 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by regard (Post 33252767)
Yeah I dont think we have to worry about being offersheeted and like ChiChi said thats not much different than years past.

Id like to see the Rangers offersheeted this offseason while thier busy worrying about trying to sign Brad Richards. Callahan, Dubinsky, Anisimov and even Boyle.

You're right, ChiChi maks a fine point there.

:handclap: Gotta love ChiChi :laugh:

JTG 05-26-2011 10:35 AM

I don't get the "it will come back to haunt you" thing. If a GM puts his team behind the 8 ball out of spite, well he shouldn't be a GM. If he lets his elite talent get to the point where it can be offer sheeted, he isn't a very good GM.

If a player got to RFA and that players team was unable to match, I'd definitely hope Shero would keep that opportunity open.

Freeptop 05-26-2011 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azrok22 (Post 33252776)
Callahan, Dubinsky, and Boyle are all arbitration eligible, so like Parise, the chance for an offer sheet is essentially zero.

It's worth noting that Kennedy is arbitration eligible as well, so an offer sheet for him is essentially zero as well.


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