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CanadianFlyer88 05-26-2011 02:16 PM

The Off-season Thread Part II
 
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Beef Invictus 05-26-2011 02:22 PM

Carle is TERRIBLE defensively

Terence Peterman 05-26-2011 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Beef Invictus (Post 33257572)
Carle is TERRIBLE defensively

Not uh

JVR21 05-26-2011 02:35 PM

Tomas Vokoun. That is all.

GoneFullHextall 05-26-2011 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Beef Invictus (Post 33257572)
Carle is TERRIBLE defensively

no way, that +30 means he his awesome defensively!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111
:sarcasm:

KimiFerrari 05-26-2011 02:37 PM

He is bad relative to to our other Top 4, but not that bad in the grand scheme of things. He isn't strong on the body and he often finds himself in bad positions, but there are many time were he has bailed out our goalies. Either way his worth isn't his defensive ability, it is his puck moving ability.

I think we have enough of those, thus Carle is expendable. Although Coburn doesn't rack up points, he moves the puck out very often, and gains the zone with his long strides. We don't need to go over Kimmo and Pronger.

Mez seems to be the inverse of Coburn on the offensive aspect. Not good at bringing the puck in, but loves to shoot.

We go down even further in our depth chart with Bartulis, Syvret and Gust seem to be capable puck movers and willing to shoot. Nothing to really brag about, but if we are going to be redundant on our blueline, we might as well be cost efficient.

MiamiScreamingEagles 05-26-2011 02:44 PM

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=563883

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Will Philadelphia Flyers All-Star defenseman Chris Pronger be healthy at the start of the 2011-12 season? He's got lots of talents, but predicting the future isn't one of them.

"I can't tell you," he told reporters on a conference call Thursday. "I'm not Kreskin. I can't look into the future and tell you what's going to happen or not happen. Time is really all you can have -- time and patience."

Pronger had surgery to repair a herniated disc in his lower back May 12, and said he won't be able to do much in the way of rehabilitation for about another month.

However, he said the pain in his back and leg that sidelined him for the final three games of the Flyers' Eastern Conference Semifinal series against the Boston Bruins is gone.

"They removed the impingement that is pushing against the nerve root in order to alleviate -- we can call it vibrations, sensations, weakness -- that you have in your leg," he said. "The reason you want to do it as quickly as possible from what I got from my meeting with the doctor was you don't want the nerve exposed to that too long. It just creates more and more damage and you want that nerve to be able to regenerate so that you can get as much strength back as possible.

"As far as I was told it (the surgery) went very well. It relieved a lot of the weakness I was having in my leg and now it is just a matter of how the nerve regenerates itself and the range of motion and all the rest of that stuff. How it recovers and that stuff are probably another 4-5 weeks before we see where that is at."

In 17 NHL seasons, this is the first time Pronger has had a major back issue. He said if he wanted to continue playing, surgery was a necessity.
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While Pronger is recovering from his back problem, he's also still rehabilitating his hand injury.

"I am actually doing that right now, as we speak," he said of his hand work. "I've got different things that I do on the days when I am not doing hand therapy with a hand specialist. Just continue to try to gain strength back and work on my hand to try to get it back to where it needs to be to play the game properly. It's the same answer basically for my back -- time heals most wounds. I am sure a long summer of rehab and whatnot will get that back to where it needs to be play at a high level, hold my stick, and do all the rest of those things the way I need to be a good hockey player."

GoneFullHextall 05-26-2011 02:47 PM

Pronger isnt going to tell us anything he doesnt want to. Even if he knows he will tell the media what he wants. Not what they want to hear.
The media continues to get trolled by Pronger.

MiamiScreamingEagles 05-26-2011 02:49 PM

From Chuck Gormley...

http://blogs.courierpostonline.com/f...ends-richards/

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Flyers defenseman Chris Pronger defended Flyers captain Mike Richards in a conference call with reporters, saying it would be “ridiculous” for him to give up the captaincy.

“What good does that do?” Pronger asked.

A full transcript will follow, but Pronger said he was brought to Philadelphia two years ago to help Richards become a better captain and he believes Richards has “made some strides.”
“At the end of the day you have to realize it’s a team sport,” Pronger said.

MiamiScreamingEagles 05-26-2011 02:51 PM

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/i...#ixzz1NUC9bubu


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Pronger, whose team was swept by Boston in the conference semifinals, was asked about Richards and how he has handled the captaincy.

“When a team wins, players get pats on the back, and that’s usually your captain and goalie.” He added that the opposite happens when a team loses, and said that was unfair.

“People can say whatever they want about Richie. At the end of the day, it’s a team sport,” he said.

Added Pronger: “I was brought it to help him be a captain…I think he’s made some strides. Everyone does things their own way.”

Pronger on being a captain in Philadelphia. “It’s not easy when expectations are high.” He added it was “a little ridiculous for people to be blaming one person” _ Richards _ for the Flyers playoff failure.
http://phillysportsdaily.com/flyers/...ds-as-captain/

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Pronger recognized that the captaincy comes with means more responsibility, but when the wheels came off for the Flyers down the stretch, and eventually broke down against Boston in the playoffs, the responsibility should be shared.

“When a team wins, players get pats on the back or get all the credit,” Pronger said. “That’s usually your captain, your goalie, all the rest of that. When you lose, whether it’s fair or unfair, the people that get criticized are your captain, and your goalie, and all the way down the line.

“This is a team sport and for you to be successful you need everyone around you to play well.”

Pronger forecasted improvement with Richards’ image as a captain though. It wasn’t exactly an easy road for Pronger when he became captain of the St. Louis Blues, but eventually he prevailed.

“I was able to come through those with my head held high and better,” Pronger said. “So will Mike. I went through them as a young captain; I went through them as a player. Getting booed, getting mouthed off walking out of the rink and wanting to fight guys after games and all the rest of it. It’s not easy, especially on a team when the expectations are this high and the fans are this passionate.”

The Flyers captain wasn’t on the conference call, but Pronger did have some advice to pass along to the 26-year-old.

“I think as his career progresses, he is going to understand more and more what the media’s job is, and just to give you guys a little — just a little bit — just a little taste,” Pronger said emphatically. “Which is what I do, just give you a little taste. You don’t have to give it all, just enough so you guys can do your job and leave him alone. That’s all experience. I think it’s a little ridiculous to be blaming one person.”

Vikke 05-26-2011 02:53 PM

Can someone convince the management to go for Vokoun instead of Bryz??

healthyscratch 05-26-2011 03:50 PM

WTF is this about?!

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tpanotch Tim Panaccio
saw #flyers Winter Classic jerseys. awful. looks like Cincy Bengals. since when is this the NFL?

Look like the Bengals? What in the world have they done to our jersey???

Ghost of Downie* 05-26-2011 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by healthyscratch (Post 33259184)
WTF is this about?!




Look like the Bengals? What in the world have they done to our jersey???

Panotch is probably talking about the fan-made jerseys that are floating around the Internet, and, as usual, he isn't actually checking up on facts to see if those are the official jerseys.

EDIT: These ones.

http://mt.nesn.com/.a/6a0115709f071f...d6b2970d-500wi

SolidSnakeUS 05-26-2011 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by healthyscratch (Post 33259184)
WTF is this about?!




Look like the Bengals? What in the world have they done to our jersey???

He is officially on crack.

healthyscratch 05-26-2011 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghost of Downie (Post 33259219)
Panotch is probably talking about the fan-made jerseys that are floating around the Internet, and, as usual, he isn't actually checking up on facts to see if those are the official jerseys.

:lol: Good points, fellas.

This is probably what he's referring to...

http://www.gcobb.com/wp-content/uplo...2012jersey.jpg

With a story...
http://www.gcobb.com/2011/05/25/rumo...c-2012-jersey/


ETA: I think they're pretty damn cool. But that's just me. :dunno:

CharlieGirl 05-26-2011 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghost of Downie (Post 33259219)
Panotch is probably talking about the fan-made jerseys that are floating around the Internet, and, as usual, he isn't actually checking up on facts to see if those are the official jerseys.

EDIT: These ones.

http://mt.nesn.com/.a/6a0115709f071f...d6b2970d-500wi

If Timmy is referring to these jerseys and hates 'em, there is no hope for him whatsoever.

I can't remember when they revealed the WC jersey last time, but it'll be nice to see them and get past all the rumours.

Ghost of Downie* 05-26-2011 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CharlieGirl (Post 33259361)
If Timmy is referring to these jerseys and hates 'em, there is no hope for him whatsoever.

I can't remember when they revealed the WC jersey last time, but it'll be nice to see them and get past all the rumours.

Flyers revealed theirs in September last time. Pens and Caps both revealed theirs in October last year. So we probably still have a while to go.

JVR21 05-26-2011 04:07 PM

I still think those jerseys are nice, especially the patch.

Vikke 05-26-2011 04:09 PM

I think those are pretty awesome actually.

King Forsberg 05-26-2011 04:13 PM

Agreed. I love that patch

dookie88 05-26-2011 04:53 PM

The patch is awesome, but I'd rather see them wearing this one:

Fenza 05-26-2011 05:02 PM

The "Bengals" jersey looks great to me too.

fauxflex 05-26-2011 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MiamiScreamingEagles (Post 33258059)

So how long do we have to wait until Richie is done his on the job training to learn the lessons he needs to learn? Do the Flyers have that long given aging Pronger and Timonen?

Ghost of Downie* 05-26-2011 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by fauxflex (Post 33260543)
So how long do we have to wait until Richie is done his on the job training to learn the lessons he needs to learn? Do the Flyers have that long given aging Pronger and Timonen?

If you still think that Mike Richards as a captain is holding the Flyers back from a Stanley Cup, I don't know what to say.

decadentia 05-26-2011 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by fauxflex (Post 33260543)
So how long do we have to wait until Richie is done his on the job training to learn the lessons he needs to learn? Do the Flyers have that long given aging Pronger and Timonen?

What lessons are these per say? I'd love to know.

I've seen him do physics, so don't use that excuse.


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