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Fulton44* 06-11-2011 10:42 AM

(Hockey Buzz article) Carter to Edmonton
 
Mod edit, with link provided per site rule:

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Richa...rter/131/36325


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Here's a decent rumor for you to start your weekend.

The Philadelphia Flyers are all about signing goaltender Ilya Bryzgalov to a long-term deal. One problem however: He wants money. Lots of money. Enough money to push Philly into bad salary cap territory. If Bryzgalov is to become a Flyer, someone has to go. Center Jeff Carter is perhaps the most moveable high-priced asset. Rumors are the Columbus Blue Jackets are making a big push for Carter that includes trading to Philly the 8th overall pick at the draft this month.

As we all know, the Edmonton Oilers lack a #1 center. What they do have going for them is plenty of young prospects. So if the Oilers wanted to acquire Carter, what would he be worth?

trigzter 06-11-2011 10:45 AM

It seems like a semi-decent deal, but I wouldn't consider Gagner a 2nd line center. He hasn't scored more than 16 goals in a season in his 3 years in the NHL. I'd think we would also need to pull a prospect from them as well, but I don't follow them enough to know anyone in their farm system.

JVR21 06-11-2011 10:45 AM

I would personally murder Holmgren if that trade happened.

Edit: This is far from a rumor. This is some blogger and blind speculation.

Sundinisagod 06-11-2011 10:47 AM

If Philly can get Voracek and 8th overall from Columbus, than Edm better have 1st overall in play to land Carter...

GKJ 06-11-2011 10:50 AM

Link is needed

BobbyClarkeFan16 06-11-2011 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by trigzter (Post 33567942)
It seems like a semi-decent deal, but I wouldn't consider Gagner a 2nd line center. He hasn't scored more than 16 goals in a season in his 3 years in the NHL. I'd think we would also need to pull a prospect from them as well, but I don't follow them enough to know anyone in their farm system.

Gagner would probably be moved to the right wing if he got to Philadelphia. He and Giroux had some serious chemistry together at the World Summit Series (the Canadian Juniors vs the Russian Juniors). I wouldn't be opposed to Gagner because he's been misused in Edmonton.

However, I'd want more than two picks and Gagner if I'm Holmgren. I also want a defenseman thrown into the deal, maybe someone like Smid. That would allow the Flyers to deal Carle and get some more assets in return.

trigzter 06-11-2011 10:58 AM

Thanks BCF16 I really am clueless outside of Taylor Hall, about Edmonton. Chemistry with Giroux is always awesome. In such a weak draft, the 19th pick is probably equated to the value of a 2nd rounder in a good year, with the 31st pick being a 2nd-3rd round pick value wise. We would definately need something else, and a D man would be great, because I do expect us to get rid of Carle.

Jray42 06-11-2011 11:46 AM

that deal is awful. but its an edmonton blogger ( i think) so what do you expect.

Beef Invictus 06-11-2011 11:50 AM

What can edmonton give us, exactly?

GKJ 06-11-2011 11:52 AM

#1 pick has to be included. No questions asked.

Hollywood Couturier 06-11-2011 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Beef Invictus (Post 33568616)
What can edmonton give us, exactly?

Shawn Horcoff. Easy deal.

FreshPerspective 06-11-2011 12:02 PM

If there is any merit to this then again people have to consider a multiple player and team deal. It seems people just keep treating these Carter rumors as standalone trades ....a bilateral trade when it's is looking more likely a multiple team deal is being discussed.

mm6492 06-11-2011 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by go david krejci 430 (Post 33568645)
#1 pick has to be included. No questions asked.

or Taylor Hall.

Coppy 06-11-2011 12:06 PM

If I made a blog, made a post saying the Flyers should trade Matt Carle for Pekka Rinne, does that make it a rumor? This reads more like a blogger's pipe dream than anything else.

DrinkFightFlyers 06-11-2011 12:15 PM

#1 pick and MPS? Is that too much? I haven't seen too much of MPS recently, has he developed into the type of player he is supposed to (or is he on the track to do so)?

BillyShoe1721 06-11-2011 12:17 PM

That's more speculation than anything(thankfully). I'm not sold on Gagner, and the picks don't do much for me. I'd want MPS+.

Hollywood Couturier 06-11-2011 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DrinkFightFlyers (Post 33568978)
#1 pick and MPS? Is that too much? I haven't seen too much of MPS recently, has he developed into the type of player he is supposed to (or is he on the track to do so)?

For Carter? Entirely too much. Columbus is rumored to be offering Voracek and the 8th. That first and MPS will not be traded for Carter from Edmonton's POV.

RJ8812 06-11-2011 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Fulton44 (Post 33567909)

thats not a rumour, thats speculation

Hollywood Couturier 06-11-2011 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RJ8812 (Post 33569250)
thats not a rumour, thats speculation

Done.

MiamiScreamingEagles 06-11-2011 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Hollywood Cannon (Post 33569268)
Done.

I call your speculation and raise you a "Hockey Buzz article."

Ghost of Downie* 06-11-2011 01:08 PM

I didn't think things could get less credible than Eklund's rumors. Hockeybuzz speculation? That's a new low.

Lottery Oilers* 06-11-2011 01:13 PM

Edmonton would never give up the 1st overall or Taylor Hall so it sounds like he's going to Columbus.

Hollywood Couturier 06-11-2011 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MiamiScreamingEagles (Post 33569370)
I call your speculation and raise you a "Hockey Buzz article."

I fold.

CS 06-11-2011 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MiamiScreamingEagles (Post 33569370)
I call your speculation and raise you a "Hockey Buzz article."

I see your "Hockey Buzz Article" and raise you "BS."

1st Overall has to be in play if EDM wants Carter.

GKJ 06-11-2011 03:07 PM

Gagner would be the 4th line center here.


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