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magnet43 06-17-2011 02:26 PM

Leaf fans, do you really want Brad Richards?
 
Recent concussion issue, 31 years of age. Rumored to be intersted in an 8 year deal at around $8.5-9.0 M.

So do Leaf fans really want to take the risk of committing all that term and all that salary?

By the way, this thread is directed to Leafs fans ONLY. Please and thank you

hdtrax 06-17-2011 02:28 PM

I know I don't. Can't speak for anybody else.

MisterT 06-17-2011 02:30 PM

Not for that term. I think the money would work on a 3-4 year contract.

Pyke* 06-17-2011 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by magnet43 (Post 33712559)
Recent concussion issue, 31 years of age. Rumored to be intersted in an 8 year deal at around $8.5-9.0 M.

So do Leaf fans really want to take the risk of committing all that term and all that salary?

By the way, this thread is directed to Leafs fans ONLY. Please and thank you

Not a Leafs fan, but since I spend so much of my time in Toronto on an annual basis, I'll comment as someone who is surrounded by Leafs fans.

Yes. They do. They lack a #1 Center in their organization, and Richards would make Kessel much, much better. It would also allow Bozak and others to play at roles that are more comparable to their actual skill level. It's a big contract, but so what? If Richards gets hurt - LTIR is fine... and the Leafs can afford to bury anyone who isn't performing.

Liferleafer 06-17-2011 02:31 PM

I'll take him. Not because i love him, but he is the only available center that fills a huge hole for us.

Joe Pesci 06-17-2011 02:32 PM

If this question is only directed to Leafs fans, why don't you post it on the Leafs board?

FireEverybody* 06-17-2011 02:33 PM

8 year deal at around $8.5-9.0 M.

:laugh: that would mean Sather went full retard.
Good luck in NYC.

Pyke* 06-17-2011 02:35 PM

Just a point - but Richards probably will command a $70 million contract over 10 years.

Something like:
Year 1: $10 million (31-32)
Year 2: $10 million (32-33)
Year 3: $10 million (33-34)
Year 4: $8 million (34-35)
Year 5: $7 million (35-36)
Year 6: $7 million (36-37)
Year 7: $5 million (37-38)
Year 8: $5 million (38-39)
Year 9: $4 million (39-40)
Year 10: $4 million (40-41)

Annual cap hit - $7,000,000.

If he retires later on, doesn't matter - it's an U-35 contract.

Pyrophorus 06-17-2011 02:37 PM

Yes, even at that term, and dollar amount or even higher.

Our NEED is that great.

ShootIt 06-17-2011 02:38 PM

Well, who wouldn't want Brad Richards?

If Burke can figure out how to sign him to a reasonable deal, then he would be a great addition for Toronto. Especially Kessel.

Pyrophorus 06-17-2011 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShootIt (Post 33712867)
Well, who wouldn't want Brad Richards?

If Burke can figure out how to sign him to a reasonable deal, then he would be a great addition for Toronto. Especially Kessel.

Maybe even a bit unreasonable.

Woll Smoth 06-17-2011 02:58 PM

Short answer: Ya

Long answer: Yes

shortfuze 06-17-2011 02:59 PM

he wont get 10 years at 8.5-9 million. he will more likely get a 5-6 year deal at 6.5-7.5 million. at 7.5 million teams will over pay for his service.

and yes the leafs need and want him on the team. he is the number 1 centre we need and will only make this team better. but they also need to plug a few more wholes as well.

I am Canadian 06-17-2011 03:00 PM

When you look at our center depth or lack of.... Yes.

Grabovski
Bozak
AHL Bums

are the only servicalbe ones we have right now.. And Bozak **** the bed this year.

Loso 06-17-2011 03:02 PM

Not really, with him we're not more than a perennial 5-10th place team destined to rebuild again in a few years.

Either our prospects become studs or we suck enough to get a stud.

Mind you Atlanta, Columbus and Florida were like that so I don't know if it would be a good decision not to sign him.

I'm on the fence, though personally I think Yakupov will be a superstar although I don't believe we'll be bad enough to pick him, sucks really because if were do end up being bad enough, then adding him won't make that impact that puts us over the top.

Nasty Nazem 06-17-2011 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by magnet43 (Post 33712559)
Recent concussion issue, 31 years of age. Rumored to be intersted in an 8 year deal at around $8.5-9.0 M.

So do Leaf fans really want to take the risk of committing all that term and all that salary?

By the way, this thread is directed to Leafs fans ONLY. Please and thank you

:facepalm: @ any team that signs him for that much. Yes, even the Leafs.

But I don't think Burke is that stupid to give him that. Only team Richards could get that much from is NYR.

Personally, I would be shocked if any team gave him anywhere near that number.

Marco Esquandolas 06-17-2011 03:04 PM

Not at $8.5M/year for the next eight seasons. Good god. A five-year, $35M deal would be the most I'd do. Maybe six.

pspot 06-17-2011 03:04 PM

he's going to TB unless someone overpays by crazy amount

its like when you are asked to do a job you really don't want to do so you quote a ridiculous amount. sometimes people actually pay it.

I hope it won't be the Leafs

Scoogs 06-17-2011 03:07 PM

Not at the term he wants.

If we gave him 5 years, I would be happy. In that time we could insulate the talent we do have at the center position waiting in the wings, Kadri and Colborne, and hope they become the best possible player they can be.

I'm not the biggest fan of Richards, to be honest... So it wouldn't upset me if we didn't get him. But I can't deny the player he's been over the years.

syc 06-17-2011 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyke (Post 33712785)
Just a point - but Richards probably will command a $70 million contract over 10 years.

Something like:
Year 1: $10 million (31-32)
Year 2: $10 million (32-33)
Year 3: $10 million (33-34)
Year 4: $8 million (34-35)
Year 5: $7 million (35-36)
Year 6: $7 million (36-37)
Year 7: $5 million (37-38)
Year 8: $5 million (38-39)
Year 9: $4 million (39-40)
Year 10: $4 million (40-41)

Annual cap hit - $7,000,000.

If he retires later on, doesn't matter - it's an U-35 contract.

lol then reality set in...................

Kamal007 06-17-2011 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyke (Post 33712785)
Just a point - but Richards probably will command a $70 million contract over 10 years.

Something like:
Year 1: $10 million (31-32)
Year 2: $10 million (32-33)
Year 3: $10 million (33-34)
Year 4: $8 million (34-35)
Year 5: $7 million (35-36)
Year 6: $7 million (36-37)
Year 7: $5 million (37-38)
Year 8: $5 million (38-39)
Year 9: $4 million (39-40)
Year 10: $4 million (40-41)

Annual cap hit - $7,000,000.

If he retires later on, doesn't matter - it's an U-35 contract.

I would take that deal as long there wasn't a NMC. We could waive him if needed.

shortfuze 06-17-2011 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ripe4theSnipe (Post 33713256)
Not really, with him we're not more than a perennial 5-10th place team destined to rebuild again in a few years.

Either our prospects become studs or we suck enough to get a stud.

Mind you Atlanta, Columbus and Florida were like that so I don't know if it would be a good decision not to sign him.

I'm on the fence, though personally I think Yakupov will be a superstar although I don't believe we'll be bad enough to pick him, sucks really because if were do end up being bad enough, then adding him won't make that impact that puts us over the top.

whys that? when you have solid depth in the organization you dont need to keep rebuilding. losing 1 person wont set them back and put them into a rebuild.

Schenn 06-17-2011 03:22 PM

As long as he doesn't command much more than he makes now, then hell yes.

madmike77 06-17-2011 03:22 PM

I'm likely one of the few leaning towards no. He's on the wrong side of 30, he'll want a lot of money and he'll likely want a long term.

He'll no doubt make the Leafs a much better team, but I don't see them being a Cup contender for a while even with him in the lineup.

I'm concerned that by the time the Leafs are ready to contend, Richards' best days will be behind him and his contract will hinder the Leafs chances.

But it would be nice to make the playoffs again...

For me it comes down to the length of the contract. There's no way I'd want to do anything more than 4-5 years at $7 mill/year max.

re5piration 06-17-2011 03:23 PM

Dear lord no, not at that price.


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