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GingersRULE 06-18-2011 12:09 PM

Proposa Vancouver-Nashville
 
What would everyone think of this trade. If Vancouver offered Christian Erhoff or Keith Ballard, Cody Hodgson and our first round pick for this year in exchange for Shea Weber?
In exchange you guys get a puck moving defenseman to help boost your teams offense more and a solid upcoming prospect in Cody Hodgson and Vancouver would receive a number one defensemen they've been seeking.

token grinder 06-18-2011 12:41 PM

i think i would rather pay weber the 8 million than the 8 million for the three of those guys.

on a personal note, i want nobody with the vancouver taint on them,

worstfaceoffmanever 06-18-2011 12:46 PM

No.

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Joe T Choker 06-18-2011 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by worstfaceoffmanever (Post 33726518)
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You're doing it wrong ... the correct answer is Hell No

TMI 06-18-2011 01:33 PM

:facepalm:

First of all, Erhoff is going to be a free agent, so you would be trading his rights, not the player. Second, both Ballard and Erhoff are weak, and Ballard isn't that good. Third, your first rounder is going to be pretty close to where NJ's second is. Couple that with the fact that we are in win-now mode and the first has almost no value to us.

This one is a bit better than the one I saw on the Canucks forum (the rights to Erhoff, Ballard, and a 1st). Of course, that guy's reasoning was "We can low ball them cuz they cant pay him anyway"...

Can we sticky a thread for fans other teams warning them to not come in here offering their crap for Weber?


edit: just for fun, here's a counter-proposal. How about we give you Wilson and a third rounder for Kesler? :sarcasm:

Predsrule 06-18-2011 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GingersRULE (Post 33726059)
What would everyone think of this trade. If Vancouver offered Christian Erhoff or Keith Ballard, Cody Hodgson and our first round pick for this year in exchange for Shea Weber?
In exchange you guys get a puck moving defenseman to help boost your teams offense more and a solid upcoming prospect in Cody Hodgson and Vancouver would receive a number one defensemen they've been seeking.

so they only thing with real value is Hodgson? nty...
Ward or Dumont , Frason . NJ 2nd for Edler?

trevorbird 06-18-2011 02:15 PM

if only poile had the ability to stop stupid online proposals along with stopping offersheets. come on, david. i thought you were smart. i guess not.

AtlantaWhaler 06-18-2011 02:20 PM

That is brutal. Note: just because Ballard is offered a million times doesn't mean anyone would take him for anything of value.

Firestorm 06-18-2011 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AtlantaWhaler (Post 33727776)
That is brutal. Note: just because Ballard is offered a million times doesn't mean anyone would take him for anything of value.

Actually Ballard could be of value on a team with a coach that treats him well.

Just not to us.

Viqsi 06-18-2011 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by AtlantaWhaler (Post 33727776)
That is brutal. Note: just because Ballard is offered a million times doesn't mean anyone would take him for anything of value.

Columbus can't draft for crap in the second round and we badly need top-4 depth, so that could be considered something of value. :)

And the OP and his/her ilk still continue to remind me of the Rick Nash To Toronto days.

trevorbird 06-18-2011 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JustAnotherHockeyFan (Post 33727832)
Actually Ballard could be of value on a team with a coach that treats him well.

Just not to us.

Ok.

Dumont, O'Brien, NJ's 2nd and Blake Geoffrion.

So we have a player that's "good to a coach that treats him well." A defenseman that's a free agent. A pick that's on par with a Vancouver 1st. and a Prospect.

Now give us Ryan Kesler.

I Will Son 06-18-2011 03:26 PM

nope

Roman Yoshi 06-18-2011 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GingersRULE (Post 33726059)
What would everyone think of this trade. If Vancouver offered Christian Erhoff or Keith Ballard, Cody Hodgson and our first round pick for this year in exchange for Shea Weber?
In exchange you guys get a puck moving defenseman to help boost your teams offense more and a solid upcoming prospect in Cody Hodgson and Vancouver would receive a number one defensemen they've been seeking.

the last thing we need is a puck moving D man. Your first round pick is worthless in this draft. Ballard is a piece of poo and Erhoff had a horrible playoff.

So in other words I think not.

BourqueBourqueBork 06-18-2011 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by token grinder (Post 33726457)
i think i would rather pay weber the 8 million than the 8 million for the three of those guys.

on a personal note, i want nobody with the vancouver taint on them,

These. Both of these.

I'd be more than willing to have someone with Ryan Kesler's skill set...but I think he would need to go through a cleansing on another team before I could take him here. Too much classlessness, gamesmanship, and diving. Sometimes the only way to tell him and Burrows apart is by the number on the sweater.


I don't want to let go of Weber anyways...but I would imagine we wouldn't consider trading him for defense anyways...at the very least a top 5 forward. I'm thinking someone in the range of Steven Stamkos.

GingersRULE 06-18-2011 09:19 PM

I just spoke to Mike Gillis on the phone and agreed to add Ryan Keser to the deal it will be made officia this week.

Viqsi 06-18-2011 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GingersRULE (Post 33733025)
I just spoke to Mike Gillis on the phone and agreed to add Ryan Keser to the deal it will be made officia this week.

Kesler as a Pred? Geez, if you thought CBJ-NSH games were sometimes rough before... :)

kivaerijo 06-19-2011 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by GingersRULE (Post 33726059)
Vancouver would receive a number one defensemen they've been seeking.

I thought everyone said Hamhuis was going to be that number one? :sarcasm:

codeyh 06-19-2011 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by kivaerijo (Post 33737120)
I thought everyone said Hamhuis was going to be that number one? :sarcasm:

BOOM! Headshot!

worstfaceoffmanever 06-19-2011 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by kivaerijo (Post 33737120)
I thought everyone said Hamhuis was going to be that number one? :sarcasm:

He did say solid number one...

cleangene 06-19-2011 07:40 PM

The only nuck I would want here would be that scab #14, and ONLY so Toots could have some fun before, during, and after practice.

BourqueBourqueBork 06-19-2011 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by cleangene (Post 33745757)
The only nuck I would want here would be that scab #14, and ONLY so Toots could have some fun before, during, and after practice.



The thought of Burrows in a Pred jersey....*shudders*...I'm going to have to go shower now. I feel unclean.:shakehead

kypredsfan 06-20-2011 05:57 AM

Legwand for Kesler straight up? ok, we'll throw in Dumont for good measure.

But on your original proposal: I haven't heard a single Vancouver fan say ANYTHING nice at all about Ballard. Why do we want this??? We are in love with Weber unless he ever becomes a Wing (I'll kill him) or probably a Canuck. Sorry.

Firestorm 06-20-2011 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by kypredsfan (Post 33751630)
Legwand for Kesler straight up? ok, we'll throw in Dumont for good measure.

But on your original proposal: I haven't heard a single Vancouver fan say ANYTHING nice at all about Ballard. Why do we want this??? We are in love with Weber unless he ever becomes a Wing (I'll kill him) or probably a Canuck. Sorry.

Ballard is a good D-man, it's just VAN's coach has treated him like crap ever since Keith got there.

JuniorNelson 06-20-2011 06:50 AM

Why did Nashville take Weber to arbitration? Isn't he signed already? Where's he from, by the way?

Whatever. I bet he plays out his contract. Nashville would be wise to wring some value out of him while they can. Rentals are out of fashion, now is when you would get top value.

The OP didn't make a sound offer. Hodgson, isn't even being talked about. Ballard is the only signed defenceman with Offensive upside in Vancouver, right now. The pick is there, but Gillis values picks highly and wants to use them himself.

Vancouver will probably limp along with Salo for another year and sign Weber as a FA.

barrytrotzsneck 06-20-2011 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by JuniorNelson (Post 33751908)
Why did Nashville take Weber to arbitration? Isn't he signed already? Where's he from, by the way?

Whatever. I bet he plays out his contract. Nashville would be wise to wring some value out of him while they can. Rentals are out of fashion, now is when you would get top value.

The OP didn't make a sound offer. Hodgson, isn't even being talked about. Ballard is the only signed defenceman with Offensive upside in Vancouver, right now. The pick is there, but Gillis values picks highly and wants to use them himself.

Vancouver will probably limp along with Salo for another year and sign Weber as a FA.


I think he'll stay put. I doubt he'd be interested in going somewhere that's saddled with a choker goalie for the next 10 years. Much better to stay and play with another superstar caliber defenseman, rather than... *snicker* Dan Hamhuis.


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