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AUShockeyfan 06-19-2011 12:19 AM

Inaugural World Junior Club Cup
 
Just wondering if any Jr. A fans have heard of this event, as today was the first day I have heard of it. The Fort MacMurray Oil Barons have the honour of representing our Country at this inaugural event. Has this tournament been in the works for some time?

This is from the Oil Barons website...
http://www.oilbarons.com/news/default.aspx?id=1147

I think it's great for the MOB (as they're known) to be reping our Country, and this should prove to be a great experience for players and coaches alike.

everett331 06-19-2011 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by AUShockeyfan (Post 33734921)
Just wondering if any Jr. A fans have heard of this event, as today was the first day I have heard of it. The Fort MacMurray Oil Barons have the honour of representing our Country at this inaugural event. Has this tournament been in the works for some time?

This is from the Oil Barons website...
http://www.oilbarons.com/news/default.aspx?id=1147

I think it's great for the MOB (as they're known) to be reping our Country, and this should prove to be a great experience for players and coaches alike.

This is the first I've heard of this as well. Curious to know how they selected the team. Wondering if it's a submission thing as it would seem to cause some issues with training camps and the start of the opening season as you would have to start a little earlier in order to have your team ready to go for such a tournament. Well I hope they do well and represent us Canadians well, good luck. :yo:

vorky 06-26-2011 05:36 AM

participants

Russia (MHL) – Red Army CSKA (MHL champion 10/11)
Czech – Energia Karlovy Vary (finalist Noen ELJ 10/11)
Sweden – Malmő (play-off J20 SuperElit 10/11)
Canada – Fort McMurray Oil Barons (play-off AJHL 10/11)
USA – EJHL All Stars (Eastern Junior Hockey League)
Latvia – HK Riga (play-off MHL 10/11)
Belarus – Dinamo-Shinnik (MHL 10/11)
Slovakia – Tatranskí Vlci (newcomer MHL)

more here and here

vorky 06-28-2011 05:20 AM

trophy, made in Italy.

IJKPrinciple 06-29-2011 06:56 PM

I've already posted it in the Intl. tournaments section but if you're interested:

I've created a wiki page for the tournament:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Junior_Club_Cup

You can add info, fix errors etc.

AUShockeyfan 07-07-2011 10:37 PM

This is an email I rec'd from Kirk Lamb, Chairman/President of the CJHL re/ the selection process and concerning who would respresent Canada....

"Thank you for your email and thank you for your patronage of the CJHL and the MHL. The Ft. McMurray Oil Barons were chosen by Hockey Canada and the CJHL. As you may be aware, this is the inaugural World Cup and given the timing of the invite and the event, a formal selection process was not possible. Should the World Cup become an recurring event (which I believe is the expectation of the IIHF), Hockey Canada and the CJHL will work to formalize a selection process...."

So, there you go...

everett331 07-12-2011 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AUShockeyfan (Post 34797865)
This is an email I rec'd from Kirk Lamb, Chairman/President of the CJHL re/ the selection process and concerning who would respresent Canada....

"Thank you for your email and thank you for your patronage of the CJHL and the MHL. The Ft. McMurray Oil Barons were chosen by Hockey Canada and the CJHL. As you may be aware, this is the inaugural World Cup and given the timing of the invite and the event, a formal selection process was not possible. Should the World Cup become an recurring event (which I believe is the expectation of the IIHF), Hockey Canada and the CJHL will work to formalize a selection process...."

So, there you go...

Thank-you for finding that answer, very much appreciated

Finnish your Czech 08-01-2011 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by vorky (Post 34117247)
participants

Russia (MHL) – Red Army CSKA (MHL champion 10/11)
Czech – Energia Karlovy Vary (finalist Noen ELJ 10/11)
Sweden – Malmő (play-off J20 SuperElit 10/11)
Canada – Fort McMurray Oil Barons (play-off AJHL 10/11)
USA – EJHL All Stars (Eastern Junior Hockey League)
Latvia – HK Riga (play-off MHL 10/11)
Belarus – Dinamo-Shinnik (MHL 10/11)
Slovakia – Tatranskí Vlci (newcomer MHL)

more here and here

doesn't that mean (if this becomes an annual event), that Riga and Dinamo-Shinnik will always be in the event, considering they are the only Latvian/Belarussian teams in the MHL?

BLBarmada 08-07-2011 08:56 PM

This is a joke, the Saint John Seadogs and the Dubuque Fighting saints should be there, I can see why the seadogs wouldn't be aloud ( foreign players) but the Fighting saints should be allowed and the Vernon Vipers should be there.




Is TSN broadcasting this ?

Shootmaster_44 08-20-2011 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MTLjunior (Post 35747163)
This is a joke, the Saint John Seadogs and the Dubuque Fighting saints should be there, I can see why the seadogs wouldn't be aloud ( foreign players) but the Fighting saints should be allowed and the Vernon Vipers should be there.




Is TSN broadcasting this ?

Actually, Saint John isn't there because the CHL is not governed by Hockey Canada. Since Hockey Canada was selecting a team obviously they would send a team from their top level league, the CJHL. How they arrived at Fort Mac is another story.

I'm guessing that USA Hockey put feelers out to their junior leagues and the only interest they had was from the EJHL. I'm guessing since the EJHL is Tier III, they will likely get killed by the European teams.

I hope this is televised by someone. I'm not sure that this is an official IIHF event, so I doubt whether TSN is being forced to show it like other Hockey Canada events. I know that the only reason they show any other Hockey Canada events, aside from the World Juniors and World Championships, is that Hockey Canada forced them to do so if they wanted the rights.

I could see Sportsnet showing this had they not fired the voice of the CHL, Peter Loubardias. But since they haven't named a replacement for him, I don't see this being shown either. At any rate, for a tournament like this, I don't see any channel sending crews over for it. So unless this is shown in Europe on a network, it won't be carried in Canada. The best we could hope for is that it is shown in Europe and is called from a studio in Toronto.

BLBarmada 08-20-2011 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Shootmaster_44 (Post 36079881)
Actually, Saint John isn't there because the CHL is not governed by Hockey Canada. Since Hockey Canada was selecting a team obviously they would send a team from their top level league, the CJHL. How they arrived at Fort Mac is another story.

I'm guessing that USA Hockey put
feelers out to their junior leagues and the only interest they had was from the EJHL. I'm guessing since the EJHL is Tier III, they will likely get killed by the European teams.

I hope this is televised by someone. I'm not sure that this is an official IIHF event, so I doubt whether TSN is being forced to
show it like other Hockey Canada events. I know that the only reason they show any other Hockey Canada events, aside from the World Juniors and World
Championships, is that Hockey Canada forced them to do so if they wanted the rights.

I could see Sportsnet showing this
had they not fired the voice of the CHL, Peter Loubardias. But since they haven't named a replacement for him, I don't see this being shown either. At any rate, for a
tournament like this, I don't see any channel sending crews over for it. So unless this is shown in Europe on a network, it won't be carried in Canada. The best we
could hope for is that it is shown in Europe and is called from a studio in Toronto.

The CHL should of let the Seadogs play, and USA hockey could of sent a better team.


I would like to the tournament though.

leoleo3535 08-21-2011 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTLjunior (Post 35747163)
This is a joke, the Saint John Seadogs and the Dubuque Fighting saints should be there, I can see why the seadogs wouldn't be aloud ( foreign players) but the Fighting saints should be allowed and the Vernon Vipers should be there.




Is TSN broadcasting this ?

??????
How and why?
Totally different level, league etc.

BLBarmada 08-22-2011 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leoleo3535 (Post 36085003)
??????
How and why?
Totally different level, league etc.

It's Junior they should be there.

AUShockeyfan 08-26-2011 11:54 AM

Fort Mac win their 1st game 4-2 over Moscow. The play-by-play guy stated even though the team has been in Russia for a few days, their equipment and other items are still with customs. Can anyone shed any light on this - seems a little weird. PBP guy says "it's a conspiracy":dunno:

live feed via USTREAM - audio only....

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/mob-hockey

IJKPrinciple 08-27-2011 10:56 AM

Oil Barons played Red Army, the reigning Minor Hockey League champions, today.
End result:
Red Army: 7
Oil Barons: 0

Fulcrum 08-30-2011 10:57 AM

It's really disappointing that Saint John seadog weren't selected. Efimov, president of MH,L has been trying really hard to get the best teams to come.

One thing is for sure, this is no Junior A level tournament either, just because Oil Barons are there.

Red Army could easily be competitive with any CHL teams, especially if they were at their best roster.

Hopefully in the future. TSN should cover it for Canada. There is enough interest in Russia with 9100 fans for the first game (Red Army - Vlci)

Shootmaster_44 08-30-2011 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fulcrum (Post 36308601)
It's really disappointing that Saint John seadog weren't selected. Efimov, president of MH,L has been trying really hard to get the best teams to come.

One thing is for sure, this is no Junior A level tournament either, just because Oil Barons are there.

Red Army could easily be competitive with any CHL teams, especially if they were at their best roster.

Hopefully in the future. TSN should cover it for Canada. There is enough interest in Russia with 9100 fans for the first game (Red Army - Vlci)

I'm thinking TSN won't carry it unless Hockey Canada forces them to or it grows to be a tournament that the media is interested in.

TSN really is only interested in the World Juniors and the Worlds. However, Hockey Canada forced them to take on a few minor international tournaments and the Telus and Royal Bank Cups in order to get the rights to the Juniors and Seniors. I'm sure if TSN had their way, they'd drop all their international and youth coverage and stick with only the Juniors and Seniors.

IJKPrinciple 09-03-2011 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finnish your Czech (Post 35585929)
doesn't that mean (if this becomes an annual event), that Riga and Dinamo-Shinnik will always be in the event, considering they are the only Latvian/Belarussian teams in the MHL?

Actually, not quite. You have two Belarusian clubs in the MHL at the moment - Dinamo-Shinnik and Yunost. And 3 Latvian, since the newly formed MHL-B will have HK Riga's B team of sorts, the Riga Juniors, and Prizma Riga. And there's the relegation-promotion system in place with the MHL and MHL-B.

I do believe however that the participant for these 2 countries should be decided by some sort of tournament where Yunost and Dinamo-Shinnik and HK Riga, Prizma and Juniors should play against the remaining Belarusian/Latvian junior teams from the Latvian/Belarusian junior leagues (if there are any).


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