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wpgJetsfan 06-27-2011 04:09 PM

Phoenix XXXVIII: Hulsizer Pulls Bid For Coyotes; UPD 2 unnamed interested buyers
 
Matt Hulsizer is OUT

http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/n...id-to-buy.html

Jonas1235 06-27-2011 04:18 PM

I don't see how they can get a deal done in Glendale with anybody. NHL will eventually say, we are leaving.

Maybe go to Kansas City on a temporary basis until Quebec arena is built.

blues10 06-27-2011 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wpgJetsfan (Post 34188595)

Was he ever really in?:naughty:

Killion 06-27-2011 04:27 PM

No huge surprise there. The time to have made a move on his offer with the Bonds was immediately following the December 14th vote by the COG approving the plan, end of January at the latest. Then the GW letters, threats, procrastinations, his failure to dig deeper when it was absolutely the only way to secure the franchise, questions about his solvency & inexperience, connections to IEH's etc just complicating matters even more. Lets see now if a deal can be completed in what would be in comparison to whats gone on in lightning speed, because without haste, IMO, the Coyotes are doomed.

justincredible 06-27-2011 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonas1235 (Post 34189211)
I don't see how they can get a deal done in Glendale with anybody. NHL will eventually say, we are leaving.

Maybe go to Kansas City on a temporary basis until Quebec arena is built.

Temporary? More like for good

goyotes 06-27-2011 04:37 PM

As hard as it is to admit, the Coyotes are done like dinner. I can't see a deal being done in Arizona that doesn't include the NHL selling the franchise for less than $100 million. JR is not stupid. Westgate is in trouble. The CoG fiddles like Nero. The NHL will have its loses covered again while the NHL waits out another relocation group to surface and ... bang, its over. The CoG will be asking what just happened. If this was not actually happening, no one would believe the level of screw up by both the CoG and the NHL.

Pitlick* 06-27-2011 04:37 PM

The Sens played in the 10,500 seat Civic Centre for 3 years until the Palladium was built (there were several delays putting shovels in the ground).

I could see the Nordiques playing in the 16,000+ Colisee for 2+ years while a new arena is being built.


They might want to have 2 sets of realignment blueprints for next year based on whether Phoenix stays / moves to Houston (west), or moves to Quebec / Hamilton (east).

If Phoenix moves east, it counterbalances the Atlanta / Winnipeg to the West and makes realignment easier, though it would be bad for Detroit / Columbus as they both want to move east.

uhlaw97 06-27-2011 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonas1235 (Post 34189211)
I don't see how they can get a deal done in Glendale with anybody. NHL will eventually say, we are leaving.

Maybe go to Kansas City on a temporary basis until Quebec arena is built.

Hopefully Houston before Kansas City.

Bigger market.

Alex The Loyal 06-27-2011 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uhlaw97 (Post 34191111)
Hopefully Houston before Kansas City.

Bigger market.

Bigger Market shmigger smharket. Which city has more interest in the sport? The sport grows easier when there's more interest in the actual sport.

blues10 06-27-2011 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uhlaw97 (Post 34191111)
Hopefully Houston before Kansas City.

Bigger market.

As Bettman said recently it is not the size of the market but the "intensity of the market" that counts.

KingJet* 06-27-2011 05:01 PM

One thing I hope is that they Fold and merge with Winnipeg

Jonas1235 06-27-2011 05:04 PM

Kansas City is getting an exhibition game next season and hopefully they do a big rally around it and show the BOG that they would be a good market for a team.

The NHL seemingly has enough teams in the east, need more western teams.

blues10 06-27-2011 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Nino (Post 34192697)
One thing I hope is that they Fold and merge with Winnipeg

Perhaps that's what the $60 million relocation fee will get you.

Melrose Munch 06-27-2011 05:21 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=6710294

Official report.

GKJ 06-27-2011 05:54 PM

Here's a couple links:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=6710294

Quote:

Hulsizer's departure leaves the team's already tenuous future in Arizona even less certain than before. It's believed Chicago Bulls and White Sox owner Jerry Reinsdorf, an on again off again suitor for the team in the past two years, is back in the picture as a potential owner as well as another group, the source said.

Another source told ESPN.com on Monday the Hulsizer withdrawal doesn't necessarily jeopardize the Coyotes' prospects and that there remains optimism a new owner will be in place by the end of August.
Right.

http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/n...id-to-buy.html

Quote:

Hulsizer is still interested in buying another National Hockey League franchise but is not longer trying to buy the Coyotes, according an official familiar with the situation.
The official, who asked not to be identified, said the Hulsizer ownership group did not want to go through another several-month process of Glendale trying to sell the Coyotes to their group or other potential owners.

Overkamp 06-27-2011 05:56 PM

http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/n...y.html?ana=twt

GKJ 06-27-2011 05:58 PM

Phoenix's worst case scenario was Hulsizer not waiting an extra month to pull out.

Killion 06-27-2011 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GKJ (Post 34196457)
Phoenix's worst case scenario was Hulsizer not waiting an extra month to pull out.

What makes you think that?. Leverage in dealing with Reinsdorf & or The Mystery Party?.

Fugu 06-27-2011 06:48 PM

I didn't want this news to get buried in the speculation about other teams that may be of interest/available since this is the only "actual" news.


Hence a new thread....

I suppose we can come up with a new title and kdb can tell us which Roman Numeral we're supposed to be using.....


Link to Foreclosure of Westgate talk: http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=928933

Guy Legend 06-27-2011 07:03 PM

Yo Matt, come on over.

http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dai..._skyline_5.jpg

Fourier 06-27-2011 07:05 PM

I take that the sale is still imminent!

(I like that word. Until the Coyotes were on the block though I thought it meant something completely different.)

kdb209 06-27-2011 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fugu (Post 34199365)
I didn't want this news to get buried in the speculation about other teams that may be of interest/available since this is the only "actual" news.


Hence a new thread....

I suppose we can come up with a new title and kdb can tell us which Roman Numeral we're supposed to be using.....


Link to Foreclosure of Westgate talk: http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=928933

Post XXXVII threads:

06-09-2011 ESPN's Burnside: Hulsizer submitted new deal; COG city manager dragging it out
06-20-2011 Coyotes related: Westgate faces foreclosure
06-21-2011 Phoenix, worst case scenario
06-27-2011 Hulsizer Pulls Bid For Coyotes


Previously on Lost ...

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Originally Posted by kdb209
Quote:

Originally Posted by BuffaloAZ (Post 33948289)
Not sure if this is the right place for this link, I miss seeing the roman numerals!

Given that there have been multiple post-XXXVII Phoenix threads, including two current ones - would it make sense to just keep a single Phoenix Roman Numeral thread open?

06-09-2011 ESPN's Burnside: Hulsizer submitted new deal; COG city manager dragging it out
06-20-2011 Coyotes related: Westgate faces foreclosure
06-21-2011 Phoenix, worst case scenario

Quote:

Originally Posted by kdb209
Quote:

Originally Posted by CGG (Post 33549613)
Come on, put a Roman Numeral in the thread title! Do it!

Must resits the urge ...
Must resist the urge ...
Must resist the ...



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Tekneek 06-27-2011 07:05 PM

If TNSE could secure the Thrashers in a couple of weeks (believing the story as presented), then why is this Coyotes thing so complicated?

wpgJetsfan 06-27-2011 07:06 PM

You know once Quebec breaks ground for the new arena is when the NHL will probably pack up the Coyotes.


So hey Quebec here is your chance to get the arena deal done or you could lose out on the Coyotes.

sh724 06-27-2011 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tekneek (Post 34200373)
If TNSE could secure the Thrashers in a couple of weeks (believing the story as presented), then why is this Coyotes thing so complicated?

For several reasons...

The bankruptcy, the league owns the team, the league is not letting the team move if they were it would have been sold long ago, The BS with Glendale, the PHX economy, The teams past financials, etc, etc...


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