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ThorNton Apologist 07-01-2011 07:08 PM

Zenon Konopka
 
It appears as though Konopka is for sure not returning the the island.
http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey...ency-1.2996357

For a guy who was top 5 in faceoffs last year. I think he could be a very realistic replacement for Nichol. He would sign for cheap, most likely around 1mill or less.
He could also provide that sandpaper type edge we need with Eager signing in Edmonton.
Come on DW bring in Z!
Thoughts?

RBR 07-01-2011 07:11 PM

He takes a lot of dumb penalties like Eager and isn't that great a player. The faceoff ability isn't worth the drawbacks.

ThorNton Apologist 07-01-2011 07:20 PM

Another bottom 6, faceoff center i would like us to get would be Chris Drury but i think that is less realistic and would cost more than Konopka

SactoShork 07-01-2011 07:24 PM

I love fighting in hockey, but he's a ****ing nut.

Faceoffs? okay... fine. But the guy has a screw loose no doubt.

Kitten Mittons 07-01-2011 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SactoShark (Post 34494547)
I love fighting in hockey, but he's a ****ing nut.

Faceoffs? okay... fine. But the guy has a screw loose no doubt.

What? He's not Gilles.

SactoShork 07-01-2011 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Kitten Mittons (Post 34496587)
What? He's not Gilles.

Well that's true, but I'm not sure what you're disagreeing with? The guy fights anyone and everyone he skates against. and he's not great at it either. As his Shelley-like face exhibits.

Kitten Mittons 07-01-2011 08:13 PM

I thought you mixed them up because as I was reading your post, I envisioned Gilles.

SactoShork 07-01-2011 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitten Mittons (Post 34498499)
I thought you mixed them up because as I was reading your post, I envisioned Gilles.

Gilles just took the heat off Konopka, because he's even more crazy.

The Isles were the Charleston Chiefs of 10-11.

Sharkway Drive 07-01-2011 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SactoShark (Post 34498709)
Gilles just took the heat off Konopka, because he's even more crazy.

The Isles were the Charleston Chiefs of 10-11.

this post is great. I lol'd. I would love konopka but i didnt know he had a couple screws loose. If he can fix his act i think he would be a great addition.

Gene Parmesan 07-01-2011 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SactoShark (Post 34498709)
Gilles just took the heat off Konopka, because he's even more crazy.

The Isles were the Charleston Chiefs of 10-11.

The Isles werent good last year but they sure were fun to watch. I would welcome this addition.

sjshark91 07-01-2011 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SactoShark (Post 34498709)
Gilles just took the heat off Konopka, because he's even more crazy.

The Isles were the Charleston Chiefs of 10-11.

That Pitt game was comedy. I felt like I was watching Slap shot.

CHALUPA 07-01-2011 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RBR (Post 34493307)
He takes a lot of dumb penalties like Eager and isn't that great a player. The faceoff ability isn't worth the drawbacks.

Before we signed Nichol, he was also known to pick up dumb penalties. Having that faceoff role player is important, and you can't just assume a Konopka signing is going to end up hurting the Sharks.

Eager's impact was foreseeable, because he was brought in here to hit people. If Konopka is leaned on for a more specific defensive role, I don't see a problem.

ChompChomp 07-01-2011 10:10 PM

Been saying for weeks now that I expect DW to sign him, and I still stick to that (unless he signed already).

Nighthock 07-01-2011 11:01 PM

Thornton, Couture, Handzus, Desjardins ... why?

ThorNton Apologist 07-01-2011 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nighthock (Post 34509273)
Thornton, Couture, Handzus, Desjardins ... why?

do notice this thread was made before the Handzus signing

Admiral* 07-02-2011 12:32 AM

Konopka would be a great addition. He's a leader and will fight anyone. He's essentially the perfect 4th line center.

Rasta 07-02-2011 03:51 AM

I support the addition of some more grit, someone to take the fighting duties off of Clowe's shoulders, he's too skilled to be risking injury. Only time I want to see him drop the gloves next year is against #16 when we play the Wild :sarcasm:

Tealblood 07-02-2011 04:04 AM

I posted this in the other thread too, I say no because he had 29 minor penalties last season(or 58 pims), compare that to 23 by eager( 12 minor pims less than konopka is actually a pretty steep difference) and 17 by mayers. Minor penalties almost always put your team shorthanded unless they're matching roughing calls or something.

The point is konopka is even more undisciplined than eager, and I thought eager was pretty undisciplined last season even before the playoff drama. There's no way konopka could even think about playing a game in the playoffs, so why bother? Just get guys who can help you win a cup, **** the rest this isn't slapshot we're watching.

Admiral* 07-02-2011 12:17 PM

At least 10 of those minor penalties were off-setting and 2 more of them were instigators. So in 82 games he took 19 minor penalties that left the team shorthanded. That's not too bad and it shouldn't detract from everything else he would bring to the team.

KzooShark 07-02-2011 12:32 PM

He's exactly the sort of guy who isn't going to see any playoff ice time, so what's the appeal?

ChompChomp 07-02-2011 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KzooShark (Post 34535675)
He's exactly the sort of guy who isn't going to see any playoff ice time, so what's the appeal?

A guy who was FOURTH in the entire NHL in faceoffs (how many times must this stat be raised, look it up if you don't believe us, he took plenty of faceoffs too, it's not a deceiving stat) wouldn't get any playoff time? Are you kidding me? On what basis?

SJSharks2010 07-02-2011 02:18 PM

Because Konopka will do nothing to help us in the playoffs (and let's face it, we're gonna be in the playoffs, the season is a formality) I have no interest in Konopka. I WAS intersted but after thinking about it I don't like the idea of signing someone who will be useless in the playoffs.

KzooShark 07-02-2011 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChompChomp (Post 34542621)
A guy who was FOURTH in the entire NHL in faceoffs (how many times must this stat be raised, look it up if you don't believe us, he took plenty of faceoffs too, it's not a deceiving stat) wouldn't get any playoff time? Are you kidding me? On what basis?

He just finished a season with 307 penalty minutes. That's double Nichol's career high, and over 4 times higher than what he had in PIM's the year before the Sharks signed him. That makes him FIRST in penalty minutes by almost 100 minutes. He'd have to take the faceoff and be ordered directly to the bench in the hopes that someone didn't skate across his eyesight and he lunges at him with his gloves dropping.

McLellan will put up with that about as long as he put with Eager's idiocy after game 2.

ChompChomp 07-02-2011 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SJSharks2010 (Post 34543045)
Because Konopka will do nothing to help us in the playoffs (and let's face it, we're gonna be in the playoffs, the season is a formality) I have no interest in Konopka. I WAS intersted but after thinking about it I don't like the idea of signing someone who will be useless in the playoffs.

Yeah, who needs one of top faceoff men in the playoffs? No need for that guy to win a critical draw in the offensive or defensive end in playoff games, of course that makes perfect sense. Just like that Game 5 vs. VAN in the remaining seconds of the third with a 2-1 lead. No need for Konopka there to win the draw, clear the puck, and win the game. :shakehead

ChompChomp 07-02-2011 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KzooShark (Post 34543145)
He just finished a season with 307 penalty minutes. That's double Nichol's career high, and over 4 times higher than what he had in PIM's the year before the Sharks signed him. He'd have to take the faceoff and be ordered directly to the bench in the hopes that someone didn't skate across his eyesight and he lunges at him with his gloves dropping.

McLellan will put up with that about as long as he put with Eager's idiocy after game 2.

He can be groomed for the Sharks system. Just takes a few meetings with coaches. If you've actually seen him play, you'd see that he doesn't play like Eager (IMHO).

He's Jody Shelley (but can be groomed for less of that role) + Manny Malhotra. Shelley alone was worthless, but Shelley with Manny-like faceoff skills and can be groomed not to take such ridiculous PIMs? Tons of value, including the playoffs. IMHO.


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