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sushi45 07-05-2011 12:01 PM

clarification on defensemen terms
 
I dont fully understand the difference between the different types of D-men in hockey. Can you guys clarify them for me and give me a few examples of current nhl players that fit them. Is there one player that meets or excel at all of them?

- Offensive d-men
- stay at home d-men
- defensive d-men
- shutdown d-men
- PMD d-men

Am I missing anytihng else?

AIREAYE 07-05-2011 12:37 PM

Those are just general rule-of-thumb terms

OFD: Focus is on carry the puck, quarterbacking the PP, join the rush as a 4th forward (ex. Mike Green)

SAHD/SDD: Focus is on disrupting the opponents offensive flow by throwing solid checks, getting into skating/passing/shooting lanes. Generally won't join the rush and won't enter play below the offensive hashmarks. (ex. Scott Hannan) Take on tougher matchups

2 Way D: excel at both aspects of the game (ex. Lidstrom)

Noir 07-05-2011 01:19 PM

Being a lifetime Canuck fan its a bit simple. Offensive Defensemens are actually your defensemens that can play a 2 way game, whereas Stay-at-Home-D or S-D-D are only reliable 1 way.

The way it's worked since forever with the Canucks, was 2 way Defensemens are your first 2 pairings (provided your team has the depth for it) and your Stay at homers are usually your plug pairings. I imagine this is how it would work for any team that can afford such defense.

Jarick 07-05-2011 01:30 PM

Offensive d-men
Defensemen who score a lot of goals or get a lot of points. Think Mike Green, Brent Burns, Shea Weber.

Stay at home d-men/defensive d-men/shutdown d-men
All pretty much the same thing, guys that are outstanding at stopping the other team from scoring goals, usually by being physical, clearing the slot, blocking shots, great gap control, breaking up rushes, etc. Think Marc Staal, Luke Schenn, Zdeno Chara.

Puck moving d-men
Defensemen who excel at getting the puck out of trouble in their end and making a great pass to start the breakout. Think Nicklas Lidstrom, Tomas Kaberle, Brian Rafalski.


Of course there are guys who are good at everything, like Lidstrom, Chara, etc. We are insanely jealous of those teams :)

esuhock22 07-05-2011 03:27 PM

When I hear shutdown dman I usually think of the guys who face top competition. Sean O'Donnell is a defensive dman, but I wouldn't call him a shutdown defensive player. That's just the way I look at it.

AIREAYE 07-05-2011 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by esuhock22 (Post 34691415)
When I hear shutdown dman I usually think of the guys who face top competition. Sean O'Donnell is a defensive dman, but I wouldn't call him a shutdown defensive player. That's just the way I look at it.

He used to be :)

OkimLom 07-06-2011 11:10 AM

[QUOTE=sushi45;34679345]I dont fully understand the difference between the different types of D-men in hockey. Can you guys clarify them for me and give me a few examples of current nhl players that fit them. Is there one player that meets or excel at all of them?

- Offensive d-men
- stay at home d-men
- defensive d-men
- shutdown d-men
- PMD d-men

Am I missing anytihng else?[/QUOTE]

You forgot Lidstrom D-men...Oh wait only one is like that. Honestly, I think Nick is all those types rolled into one.

triggrman 07-06-2011 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarick (Post 34684195)
Offensive d-men
Defensemen who score a lot of goals or get a lot of points. Think Mike Green, Brent Burns, Shea Weber.

Stay at home d-men/defensive d-men/shutdown d-men
All pretty much the same thing, guys that are outstanding at stopping the other team from scoring goals, usually by being physical, clearing the slot, blocking shots, great gap control, breaking up rushes, etc. Think Marc Staal, Luke Schenn, Zdeno Chara.

Puck moving d-men
Defensemen who excel at getting the puck out of trouble in their end and making a great pass to start the breakout. Think Nicklas Lidstrom, Tomas Kaberle, Brian Rafalski.


Of course there are guys who are good at everything, like Lidstrom, Chara, etc. We are insanely jealous of those teams :)

Weber is an offensive defenseman?

Fly Like a C5 07-06-2011 02:59 PM

This is the way I see the terms. Feel free to disagree.

Offensive Defenseman: A defenseman with offensive skill who tends to focus more on offense than defense. May jump up with the rush and will often pinch in the offensive zone. Examples:Green, Keith, Letang,

Puck Moving Defenseman(PMD): A type of defenseman who is very skilled at passing the puck. Has an excellent first pass out of the zone. Often plays on the powerplay due to their ability to distribute the puck and set up other players.
Examples: Kaberle, Boyle

Two Way Defenseman: A defenseman who is solid in his own and can contribute in the offensive zone. A player who can play on the PP or the PK.
Examples: Chara, Pronger, Weber

Defensive Defenseman/Stay at Home Defenseman: a defenseman who is focused on playing defense. Not very skilled with the puck. Plays on the PK, but not the PP. Sometimes is paired with an offensive defenseman to provide a safety net in case the offensive defenseman picks a bad time to pinch or get caught out of position. Not flashy, but defensively responsible. Blocks a lot of shots, breaks up a lot of scoring chances.
Examples: Murray, Z. Michalek, Volchenkov

Shut down Defenseman: A defenseman used to shut down the top players on the opposing team. Could be any type of defenseman listed above.
Example: Chara and Seidenberg were used to shut down the Sedin line in the Finals.


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