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harro92 07-06-2011 09:50 AM

Marc Savard
 
Dont no alot about Marc Savard in recnet years but he use to be a good top 6 forward but injuries have stopped his play, I no hes signed to a lengthy contract (4m-6 years), but would Boston trade him to another team as there top 6 centers seem set (tell me if im wrong) & would there be any takers like Phoenix, Dallas, Florida etc

ChibiPooky 07-06-2011 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by harro92 (Post 34722925)
Dont no alot about Marc Savard in recnet years but he use to be a good top 6 forward but injuries have stopped his play, I no hes signed to a lengthy contract (4m-6 years), but would Boston trade him to another team as there top 6 centers seem set (tell me if im wrong) & would there be any takers like Phoenix, Dallas, Florida etc

Holy crap that was painful to read.

I can see a team taking a flyer on him, wish the Caps had the room to do so.

pedrospecialk 07-06-2011 09:56 AM

He's done. Couldn't even get on a plane to go to game 7 because he wasn't symptom-free.

ChibiPooky 07-06-2011 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by pedrospecialk (Post 34723167)
He's done. Couldn't even get on a plane to go to game 7 because he wasn't symptom-free.

You don't think a low-salary team would take a gamble? Of course Boston doesn't really have any incentive to dump him either.

Marty Straka 07-06-2011 10:05 AM

I thought it was said that he would be retiring due to his concussion symptops.

Ozamataz Buckshank 07-06-2011 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ChibiPooky (Post 34723353)
You don't think a low-salary team would take a gamble? Of course Boston doesn't really have any incentive to dump him either.

He will likely be on the LTIR and won't count against the cap. For his own benefit, I hope he doesn't try and come back. He didn't look too great earlier in the season when he came back and was reconcussed by a soft hit by a soft man (Hunwick).

hockeyball 07-06-2011 10:09 AM

I am a big fan of Savard, and I would love nothing more than to see him play again.

However, I hope he never plays another game. He needs to think about himself and his family at this point or he could end up debilitated for life. He made a ton of money, still is, and he got his name on the cup. It's simply not worth the risk for him to attempt to play again.

Also, Matt Cooke is a piece of crap who I hope gets his comeuppance soon.

hatterson 07-06-2011 10:10 AM

Teams still significantly below the floor:

Nashville: Roughly 12M below but still have Shea Weber and a few forward spots to fill. They should reach it without much issue
Islanders: Roughly 10M below, have a couple RFAs still to sign. Likely need to add some salary, but I really can't see Snow trading for someone who is over 30.
Avs: About 6M short with a couple RFAs to sign. Far too deep at center to consider it
Jets: About 4.5M short, but can easily get there signing RFAs. Although possible they take a flier on him, I don't really see it happening.

Dr Danglefest 07-06-2011 10:14 AM

no real trade value imo until he hits the ice for an extended amount of time

veedubn1 07-06-2011 10:20 AM

What happens if he retires? Does he still get 100% of his money or less?

stungun 07-06-2011 10:27 AM

not sure the exact details, but i believe you can not trade and injured player at least if they are not returned from the injury yet.

Giroux tha Damaja 07-06-2011 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by veedubn1 (Post 34724157)
What happens if he retires? Does he still get 100% of his money or less?

As I understand it, NHL contracts are insured and guaranteed against innjury, so he would get it's full value.

stish 07-06-2011 10:31 AM

You're going to have to give up picks and prospects to a team to get rid of Savard, and probably take on a salary no one wants anymore as well. In other words he has no value.

Robert Theodorson 07-06-2011 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ChibiPooky (Post 34722983)
Holy crap that was painful to read.

People will tell you 11AM is too early to start drinking, but what do they know?

hatterson 07-06-2011 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by veedubn1 (Post 34724157)
What happens if he retires? Does he still get 100% of his money or less?

If he actually retires he would forfeit the rest of his money. However if he becomes/is declared medically unable to play and functionally retires then he would be on the Bruins roster and count against their cap (assuming he's not waived to the minors) for the next 6 years and be used as LTIR exemption.

A good number of NHL contracts are not insured so the Bruins would be on the hook for the entire $4M/year, although the Bs may have insured his, in which case insurance would likely pay anywhere from 75-90% of it

pedrospecialk 07-06-2011 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by stungun (Post 34724495)
not sure the exact details, but i believe you can not trade and injured player at least if they are not returned from the injury yet.

I believe they can be traded - Matthew Lombardi got dealt this past week.

leafmon 07-06-2011 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by pedrospecialk (Post 34726551)
I believe they can be traded - Matthew Lombardi got dealt this past week.

Good point but if you had to give up a young D like Franson to get rid of 7 mill of Lombardi I think you can start to get a idea of the worth of a better but older player who has many more years on the books.
I do realize there was no insurance on Lombardi but basically Savvy has zip value right now. Too bad one of my all time fav Generals and while I do feel sorry for him at least he got signed early for 28 mill because without that he would be far worse off.

mtsurette 07-06-2011 11:46 AM

Savard has NO value in the trade market. Most fans in Boston have realized and accepted that his career is most likely over due to concussions. Of course, I'm sure Brian Burke would throw a few 1st round picks at us for him (It's been so long since he used one of his own 1st rounders, I don't know if he'd even know what to do with it).

Shaun 07-06-2011 11:48 AM

Toronto 1st 2012

for

Savard


Reunites Phil the Thrill and Marc

syc 07-06-2011 11:57 AM

Value of Savrd? lol wtf? If any team takes on that glass jaw then that GM should be canned asap. Savard is done and even if he comes back he's one filitov size check away from ending his career.

syc 07-06-2011 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Crossfire (Post 34728469)
Toronto 1st 2012

for

Savard


Reunites Phil the Thrill and Marc

bahahahaha add Komi and Chara to that offer and we may talk.

SensFan26 07-06-2011 11:59 AM

Boston won't trade him, they used him during the playoffs as motivation, saying that they wanted to win it for Savvy.

SensFan26 07-06-2011 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by stungun (Post 34724495)
not sure the exact details, but i believe you can not trade and injured player at least if they are not returned from the injury yet.

The team trading for the player has to know that they are getting damaged goods.

Caballo Blanco 07-06-2011 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Giroux tha Damaja (Post 34724587)
As I understand it, NHL contracts are insured and guaranteed against innjury, so he would get it's full value.

Once you sign your retirement papers, you won't receive anything, which is why Savard won't retire.

Shaun 07-06-2011 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyler Seguin (Post 34729637)
Once you sign your retirement papers, you won't receive anything, which is why Savard won't retire.

If you retire from injury you do.


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