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boomboommax 07-12-2011 09:16 PM

My "realistic/optimistic" Predictions For 2011-12 !!!
 
So I'm bored out of my mind and figured I would try and come up with a somewhat realistic, yet highly successful outcome to the 2011-2012 season...
:yo:

By realistic I meant, putting injuries in the mix and predicting a few players being somewhat under their expected output while still making it a really good campaign...
:naughty:

So here goes:

Canadiens finish 4th in the conference with a record of 47-25-10 for 104 points.

***

Offensively, the Canadiens are able to roll 4 lines thanks to their depth and score a surprising 247 goals, good for 6th in the League. The PP ranks 4th at 21,8% and we're able to steal a few shootout tilts thanks to timely goals.

Player Stats: GP, G-A-P, PIM, SOG, +/-

1 Plekanec 76, 21-46-67, 52, 198, +8
2 Cammaleri 73, 30-36-66, 32, 235, +6
3 Gomez 80, 13-43-56, 46, 161, +4
4 Gionta 78, 32-23-55, 20, 308, +10
5 Kostitsyn 72, 23-28-51, 32, 187, +2
6 Markov 67, 08-40-48, 38, 162, +13
7 Subban 80, 15-31-46, 84, 196, -2
8 Paciorety 68, 23-21-44, 58, 185, -5
9 Cole 65, 17-21-38, 42, 158, -1
10 Desharnais 70, 10-23-33, 14, 086, -6
11 Eller 62, 08-20-28, 28, 076, -3
12 Weber 61, 06-15-21, 12, 108, -11
13 Darche 46, 07-10-17, 10, 067, -1
14 Spacek 58, 02-14-16, 34, 078, -2
15 Palushaj 40, 06-10-16, 14, 068, -4
16 Emelin 60, 05-10-15, 68, 108, -8
17 Gorges 78, 03-11-14, 36, 076, -5
18 Moen 82, 05-08-13, 88, 103, +1
19 Engqvist 55, 04-07-11, 18, 032, +4
20 White 56, 03-05-08, 76, 056, -6
21 Gill 70, 01-06-07, 44, 054, -8
22 Mara 36, 02-02-04, 68, 036, +0
23 Blunden 22, 03-00-03, 38, 028, -1
24 Conboy 10, 01-00-01, 35, 008, -6
25 Nash 08, 00-01-01, 06, 006, -2
26 Diaz 02, 00-00-00, 00, 001, +0
27 Dumont 01, 00-00-00, 02, 002, +0

***

Notice that I added Mara as I feel we cannot go without another veteran defenseman, given past injuries and young budding blue liners...

I feel like we might actually struggle a bit defensively and grow through rough patches with the young dmen being given more ice time, especially in the early going... That affects Price's numbers and the amount of goals we allow, a pretty average 226, but thanks to Gill and Gorges, the PK is in the top 10 at a very reasonable 83,8%. We also cut down on Penalties and finish in the middle of the pack with 995 PIM...

Goalie Stats: GP, GS, W-L, GA, GAA, S%, SO, MIN

Price 67, 66, 38-27, 178, 2,61, .917, 5, 4085
Budaj 18, 16, 9-8, 048, 2,86, .911, 1, 1008

***

I know what you're thinking... JM's style of coaching would never give such numbers, but you never know!
:sarcasm:

Fire away!!!

PricePkPatch 07-12-2011 09:40 PM

With Buffalo as a healthy 2nd in the conference, we battle the Bruins's 5th seed in the 1st round of the playoffs. :sarcasm:

HabbyGilmore 07-12-2011 09:45 PM

lol good luck with Subby managing a -2 lol He'd have to improve his defense a ton this season for that ot happen

Markowicz 07-12-2011 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boomboommax (Post 34964457)
So I'm bored out of my mind and figured I would try and come up with a somewhat realistic, yet highly successful outcome to the 2011-2012 season...
:yo:

By realistic I meant, putting injuries in the mix and predicting a few players being somewhat under their expected output while still making it a really good campaign...
:naughty:

So here goes:

Canadiens finish 4th in the conference with a record of 47-25-10 for 104 points.

***

Offensively, the Canadiens are able to roll 4 lines thanks to their depth and score a surprising 247 goals, good for 6th in the League. The PP ranks 4th at 21,8% and we're able to steal a few shootout tilts thanks to timely goals.

Player Stats: GP, G-A-P, PIM, SOG, +/-

1 Plekanec 76, 21-46-67, 52, 198, +8
2 Cammaleri 73, 30-36-66, 32, 235, +6
3 Gomez 80, 13-43-56, 46, 161, +4
4 Gionta 78, 32-23-55, 20, 308, +10
5 Kostitsyn 72, 23-28-51, 32, 187, +2
6 Markov 67, 08-40-48, 38, 162, +13
7 Subban 80, 15-31-46, 84, 196, -2
8 Paciorety 68, 23-21-44, 58, 185, -5
9 Cole 65, 17-21-38, 42, 158, -1
10 Desharnais 70, 10-23-33, 14, 086, -6
11 Eller 62, 08-20-28, 28, 076, -3
12 Weber 61, 06-15-21, 12, 108, -11
13 Darche 46, 07-10-17, 10, 067, -1
14 Spacek 58, 02-14-16, 34, 078, -2
15 Palushaj 40, 06-10-16, 14, 068, -4
16 Emelin 60, 05-10-15, 68, 108, -8
17 Gorges 78, 03-11-14, 36, 076, -5
18 Moen 82, 05-08-13, 88, 103, +1
19 Engqvist 55, 04-07-11, 18, 032, +4
20 White 56, 03-05-08, 76, 056, -6
21 Gill 70, 01-06-07, 44, 054, -8
22 Mara 36, 02-02-04, 68, 036, +0
23 Blunden 22, 03-00-03, 38, 028, -1
24 Conboy 10, 01-00-01, 35, 008, -6
25 Nash 08, 00-01-01, 06, 006, -2
26 Diaz 02, 00-00-00, 00, 001, +0
27 Dumont 01, 00-00-00, 02, 002, +0

***

Notice that I added Mara as I feel we cannot go without another veteran defenseman, given past injuries and young budding blue liners...

I feel like we might actually struggle a bit defensively and grow through rough patches with the young dmen being given more ice time, especially in the early going... That affects Price's numbers and the amount of goals we allow, a pretty average 226, but thanks to Gill and Gorges, the PK is in the top 10 at a very reasonable 83,8%. We also cut down on Penalties and finish in the middle of the pack with 995 PIM...

Goalie Stats: GP, GS, W-L, GA, GAA, S%, SO, MIN

Price 67, 66, 34-23, 178, 2,61, .917, 5, 4085
Budaj 18, 16, 13-12, 048, 2,86, .911, 1, 1008

***

I know what you're thinking... JM's style of coaching would never give such numbers, but you never know!
:sarcasm:

Fire away!!!

Fun! Alot of it looks fairly realistic. This looks a best case scenario for the team, where there are injuries but nothing major (something we haven't seen since Martin took over). Also, i guess you meant Price 34-13, not 34-23?

boomboommax 07-12-2011 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre Jr (Post 34965531)
Fun! Alot of it looks fairly realistic. This looks a best case scenario for the team, where there are injuries but nothing major (something we haven't seen since Martin took over). Also, i guess you meant Price 34-13, not 34-23?

Actually, now that you mention it... My goalie win-loss records make no sense at all!!! Gonna fix that...

boomboommax 07-12-2011 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SolkaTruesilver (Post 34965279)
With Buffalo as a healthy 2nd in the conference, we battle the Bruins's 5th seed in the 1st round of the playoffs. :sarcasm:

I do admit that Buffalo got exponentially better, but, as we see every year with teams retooling, it takes a while for the wind to catch the sails... Plus they still need to see how the 2nd line center position turns out and Miller has been injury prone...

For the sake of the exercise, here is my prediction for conference standings...

1 Washington
2 Boston
3 Pittsburgh
4 Montreal (If everything goes smoothly...) :handclap:
5 Tampa Bay
6 Buffalo
7 NY Rangers
8 Philadelphia
9 New Jersey
10 Carolina
11 Toronto
12 NY Islanders
13 Winnipeg
14 Florida
15 Ottawa

Give or take a few switches...

boomboommax 07-12-2011 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HabbyGilmore (Post 34965499)
lol good luck with Subby managing a -2 lol He'd have to improve his defense a ton this season for that ot happen

I think he'll see a lot time with Markov so that should help... Though my pairing to start the season would look something like that...

Markov-Gorges
Spacek-Subban
Gill-Weber
Emelin

Lions999 07-12-2011 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HabbyGilmore (Post 34965499)
lol good luck with Subby managing a -2 lol He'd have to improve his defense a ton this season for that ot happen

His defence was great most of the time covering for Gill`s mistakes...

boomboommax 07-12-2011 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lions999 (Post 34966987)
His defence was great most of the time covering for Gill`s mistakes...

I wouldn't say he was covering for Gill's mistakes, but I can assure you that having Big Hal as a partner doesn't exactly help the offense and for that reason, he got a lot of his points on the power play...

Another way to look at it could be that given their assignment against the other teams best lines and our inability to score 5 on 5, his +/- rating looks a little shaky...

Anyways, I would be surprised if he finished above 0, let alone in double digits on the plus side, seeing he'll probably get more tough minutes in 2011-12.

Stradale 07-12-2011 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lions999 (Post 34966987)
His defence was great most of the time covering for Gill`s mistakes...

Eh.. actually, Gill was more the guy that stayed back to cover PK's mistake. Gill is not a guy that makes many mistake, his play is simple and efficient. PK's takes more risk and Gill is actually the one fixing them by staying back.

PricePkPatch 07-12-2011 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stradale (Post 34967653)
Eh.. actually, Gill was more the guy that stayed back to cover PK's mistake. Gill is not a guy that makes many mistake, his play is simple and efficient. PK's takes more risk and Gill is actually the one fixing them by staying back.

Gill is like a shield. He doesn't move much, but he stops things just by being there.

SouthernHab 07-12-2011 11:18 PM

boomboom

You do have a lot of time on your hands.:laugh:

Interesting compilation. Hope you are correct.

boomboommax 07-12-2011 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SouthernHab (Post 34968593)
boomboom

You do have a lot of time on your hands.:laugh:

Interesting compilation. Hope you are correct.

Yeah... I play in a band and this summer has been all about writing new songs for our next album and playing festivals on the weekend so life is good!

Can't wait to get back on the road (Played 175 shows last year) though it is sometimes difficult to follow the Habs while in Europe, Asia or Australia...
:yo:

HabbyGilmore 07-13-2011 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boomboommax (Post 34966681)
I think he'll see a lot time with Markov so that should help... Though my pairing to start the season would look something like that...

Markov-Gorges
Spacek-Subban
Gill-Weber
Emelin

Time with Markov would be disastorous.. it would be open season on poor price lol.. teams would score so many goals on us we'd start looking like the Leafs.

Monctonscout 07-13-2011 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HabbyGilmore (Post 34965499)
lol good luck with Subby managing a -2 lol He'd have to improve his defense a ton this season for that ot happen

Getting better matchups alone should do that. Post All-star he was -7 despite playing much better, mostly because he and gill got the tough matchups.

If Markov can stay healthy and Cole comes as advertised we should be a better 5 on 5 team.

Strik_IX 07-13-2011 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HabbyGilmore (Post 34986251)
Time with Markov would be disastorous.. it would be open season on poor price lol.. teams would score so many goals on us we'd start looking like the Leafs.

Wait what?

I think you have mistaken Markov for Spacek... Markov is above average defensively and how many times have we seen PK make a mistake and make up for it immediately? (in a spectacular fashion might I add)

I've rarely seen players with such a "never give up" attitude.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre Jr (Post 34965531)
Also, i guess you meant Price 34-13, not 34-23?

Pretty sure he meant either 34-33 or 44-23, which makes 67GP.

34-13 = 47... you'd have Budaj play 35games?

Also, the numbers don't add up in the OP either, Budaj has 18GP with a 13-12 record, it makes no sense.


I think the numbers in the OP are decent, except Price's stats which I think will be better, especially Sv%.

I honestly think we can take 1st place in our division next year if we arent plagued with injuries (again :facepalm: )

Milosch 07-13-2011 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boomboommax (Post 34964457)
Goalie Stats: GP, GS, W-L, GA, GAA, S%, SO, MIN

Price 67, 66, 38-27, 178, 2,61, .917, 5, 4085
Budaj 18, 16, 9-8, 048, 2,86, .911, 1, 1008

***

I think what he meant for Price's stats would be 38W - 17L - 10OTL and Budaj going 9W - 8L. This would equate to 47W - 25L - 10OT like he originally calculated.

boomboommax 07-13-2011 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strik_IX (Post 34987187)
Wait what?

I think you have mistaken Markov for Spacek... Markov is above average defensively and how many times have we seen PK make a mistake and make up for it immediately? (in a spectacular fashion might I add)

I've rarely seen players with such a "never give up" attitude.



Pretty sure he meant either 34-33 or 44-23, which makes 67GP.

34-13 = 47... you'd have Budaj play 35games?

Also, the numbers don't add up in the OP either, Budaj has 18GP with a 13-12 record, it makes no sense.


I think the numbers in the OP are decent, except Price's stats which I think will be better, especially Sv%.

I honestly think we can take 1st place in our division next year if we arent plagued with injuries (again :facepalm: )

Yeah, my win-loss records were absurd for starters but I fixed them since...

Goalie Stats: GP, GS, W-L, GA, GAA, S%, SO, MIN

Price 67, 66, 38-27, 178, 2,61, .917, 5, 4085
Budaj 18, 16, 9-8, 048, 2,86, .911, 1, 1008

neofury* 07-13-2011 10:39 PM

Yeah they were hilarious but he admitted it early on and started fixing them. Everyone makes a mistake now and then dude.

boomboommax 07-13-2011 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neofury (Post 35004233)
Yeah they were hilarious but he admitted it early on and started fixing them. Everyone makes a mistake now and then dude.

:laugh:

Yeah, they were all over the place!!! Anyhow, I somewhat fixed them now...

:handclap:

Also keep in mind that, if you count the game played, they actually add up, plus PIM are adjusted based on player's past years... This was fun but also kind of mind bending so yeah... I overlooked a few things. Anyhow, most of it is somewhat thought of...


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