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donpaulo 07-20-2011 12:19 AM

How many rookies make the team ?
 
really it should be two questions.

the first is how many rookies do you think will make the team ?

the second is how many rookies do you feel should make the team ?

White Plains Batman 07-20-2011 12:28 AM

I'm going with two.

The Swedish Invasion begins with Erixon and Hagelin.

Would be amazing if Thomas, Valentenko, or Kundratek could push for a spot but I gotta give the edge to Del Z which is all good.

HockeyBasedNYC 07-20-2011 12:47 AM

Hmmm

Excited to see what Hagelin and Thomas do, and hope at least one of the two makes it.

Not sure if MZA is better, worse or even with those two in any order - because i happen to believe that both of those players are pretty good.

Then you start worrying about where the depth wingers like Avery, Rupp, Prust and Feds fit in if one of these kids show up big time. For me, i think you have to give Thomas a shot on the 3rd line if he can prove he can play because hes got a big league canon for a shot. You look at what a kid like Skinner did last season and you gotta at least give a kid who can pot goals a look-see. You never know. But the realistic side of me thinks Thomas isnt ready, though he may have a better shot simply because of the depth chart...

I think Erixon is the closest thing to a lock as far as rookies go, so ill go with 2 - though im not sure if theres room...

Richards, Anisimov, Stepan, Boyle + Christ down the middle.

Gabby, Cally, Prust, Zuccarello, + Thomas on the Right side

Dubinsky, Fedotenko, Wolski, Rupp, Avery, + Hagelin on the Left.

Now that Prospal is seemingly gone that opens a spot up on the left, which was filled by Rupp. Avery and Wolski are big question marks, and with the depth on the left side you have to think the Hagelin is going to have a harder time cracking the lineup. But im unsure if hes versatile enough to play the rightside, but i wouldnt count out a kid like him considering his route through college. Hes a pretty talented kid with speed who can be a force on the forecheck.

Thomas on the other hand prob has a better shot making the 3rd line if he can hold up to the physicality. The same could basically be said for Zucc. But Thomas has that shot and can play the PP. For some reason i am seeing visions of a Hagelin - Stepan - Thomas line. I think that has some real potential somewhere along the line. So i think Thomas has a better shot to make it simply because of the logjam on the left side. This is why Kreider is going to make it tough for himself come next season if one of these kids make it. He'll prob get a spot but it may not be as easy as one thinks if one of the two wingers makes a name and MZA is still fighting for a spot as well.

All good problems to have though. I'd rather be worrying about where kids, specs and vets will fit into the lineup then inserting transition fodder.

Pizza 07-20-2011 12:51 AM

I'm thinking two is being too optimistic. Erixon seems to be the only lock out of camp. Hagelin has a chance but it will be tough. It should be interesting.

district9 07-20-2011 12:57 AM

i think just one with v-tank maybe being a scratch. i see the lines playing out like this:

avery-richards-gaborik
dubinsky-anisimov-callahan
fedotenko-stepan-wolski
rupp-boyle-prust
christensen scratched

staal-girardi
mcsauer
erixon-eminger
v-tank scratched

Tony D63 07-20-2011 12:57 AM

Not counting McD. 1, I think Hagelin will make it. [(2) Hagelin/Erixon]

I had a dream a few days ago that I was looking at the stats and he had 11 points in 10 games in pre-season.

EDIT: Forgot about Erixon

Beacon 07-20-2011 01:04 AM

Erixon will definitely make it, so that's one. I assume Hagelin will make it sooner or later next season.

Tawnos 07-20-2011 01:06 AM

Out of camp? One, plus McD and MZA.

Over the course of the year? 4 will see playing time.

johnnydollaz89* 07-20-2011 01:10 AM

I only see Erixon making it

Muh 07-20-2011 01:38 AM

Voted 1, I only haver Erixon making it.

darko 07-20-2011 03:21 AM

2, I think Erixon and Hagelin make it.

NYR Sting 07-20-2011 03:29 AM

Erixon and Valentenko. Hagelin gets multiple call ups throughout the season.

Inferno 07-20-2011 03:39 AM

going off the board and saying 2....Erixon and Thomas.

donpaulo 07-20-2011 09:29 AM

I think we will see 2 out of camp but I am hoping for 3 by christmas

Erixon appears to have a lock and if he doesn't make it will have only himself to blame

I am hoping that the best of the other dmen make the team unless Del Zotto has cured his turnoveritis. I think Valentenko has the inside edge but I would love to see Pashnin really wow Torts and make him a believer.

and one of Hagelin, Weise, Kolarik or a surprise

Vitto79 07-20-2011 09:57 AM

I don't classify McD as a rookie.......I unfortunately think MZA starts in CT due to depth at F. Same goes for Hagelin who will be eased in and get call ups but be full time next yr when Feds and Averys contracts expire

I am going with just 1 in Erixon. Vtank will be the 2nd if he has no options but if he does have options I figure DZ likely gets in wiht Eminger the spare Dman

I just don't see any of the below not on the team to start

C- Richards, Stepan, Anisimov, Rupp, Christensen
LW- Dubinsky, Wolski, Boyle( yep he converted), Avery
RW- Gaborik, Callahan, Fedotenko, Prust

That's 13 F so Hagelin and Zuke are call ups. Conceivably if they do fantastic in camp yea EC could get dumped and Avery is a spare but I just don't see it

Fitzy 07-20-2011 09:59 AM

I always undershoot. Wanted to say one, but to try to counter i'll take 2.

2 rookie dmen. possibly Erixon, Eminger with Valentenko as the 7th (waivers?)

3 is within the realm of possibility, as Thomas/Hagelin might have a great camp, but it will not be any fewer than one because of our situation of defense.

ogie 07-20-2011 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petejudge (Post 35196295)
avery-richards-gaborik
dubinsky-anisimov-callahan
fedotenko-stepan-wolski
rupp-boyle-prust
christensen scratched

staal-girardi
mcsauer
erixon-eminger
v-tank scratched

This won't happen, the rangers would rather have the young guys in hartford playing every game than being scratched. the same reason they sent gilroy and mdz down in previous years

Fitzy 07-20-2011 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ogie (Post 35203251)
This won't happen, the rangers would rather have the young guys in hartford playing every game than being scratched. the same reason they sent gilroy and mdz down in previous years

Vtank is the age Sauer was last year.

The Rangers kept Sauer and he was the 7th defenseman for awhile until Eminger got injured.

They wouldnt do it with an Erixon or Kundratek, but Valentenko? I don't think they'll have any problem with that, and with Vtank making his pro salary, I dont think he will either.

Vitto79 07-20-2011 10:42 AM

I apologize if this has been stated many times but can Vtank be sent down ?

Does he have to go through waivers?

SupersonicMonkey* 07-20-2011 10:45 AM

Hard to say because Sather my not be done yet after Dubinsky and Callahan get settled.

Erixon definitely.

Hoping Thomas makes it and plays on Stepan's LW.

broadwayblue 07-20-2011 10:57 AM

Erixon plus someone else...so 2.

mullichicken25 07-20-2011 11:00 AM

Erixon and MZA

azrok22 07-20-2011 11:31 AM

Going with Erixon and Valentenko.

KreiMeARiver* 07-20-2011 11:45 AM

I don't think people can totally rule out McIlrath. I agree, it's a long-shot.

nyr2k2 07-20-2011 12:16 PM

RangerBoy has said a few times recently that he believes Valentenko is waiver exempt this year, as his ELC slid a year when he went to play in Russia (or something like that).

I think one player makes it: Tim Erixon. Possibly Carl Hagelin. I don't see two rookie defenseman on the roster.


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