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Devil Dancer 07-24-2011 10:54 AM

Help me score on breakaways, please
 
I suck at breakaways.

Short version: What works for you on breakaways?

Long version: I play in two C leagues in Maryland, so the competition level isn't too high. I'm one of the better players on both of my teams. I have very good speed for this level, and a decent but inconsistent and inaccurate shot.

Because I have decent speed, I get around 1 breakaway per game, but I don't score on them much. Help? What should I do?

Usually I take a look at the goalie and try to take a forehand shot where I see some space. It usually doesn't work. I tried going backhand for a while, but I have some difficulty elevating backhand shots in close, so I end up hitting an extended leg pad. I've been practicing elevating my backhand, but it isn't consistent yet.

Thoughts? Suggestions? Tricks & tips?

Briere Up There* 07-24-2011 11:16 AM

Keep it simple. If I'm coming in on a goalie I know is not particularly good I usually just shoot 5 hole. 1-2 moves will probably work.

McDuul 07-24-2011 11:17 AM

Leg kick five hole.

BadHammy* 07-24-2011 11:34 AM

To keep it short, you need to have one move from each side. The easiest plan is when coming down on the natural wing (left side if you shoot left), go forehand to backhand and do the opposite on the other side. Once you get this down, you can develop a more thought out repertoire.

WithOutPaperss 07-24-2011 11:38 AM

Be different everytime. If when you get an open shooting lane, you shoot top shelf, shoot low on a breakaway. It's all about being creative, no one scores on every breakaway.

FiveAndAGame 07-24-2011 11:59 AM

Unless you have a fantastic release and pinpoint accuracy, a plain old shot on a breakaway generally wont work. If you really want to use your shot over a deke(all about personal preference, I'm a shooter when it comes to breakaways)then you have to throw in a LITTLE deke. Drop the shoulder, leg kick, or even just a little stick handling back and forth to get the goalie moving a little bit and get him thinking. Fake slapshots along the lines of the Linus Omark shootout goal from last season seem to work very well at freezing the goalie if you go hard on the fake.

jwitz04 07-24-2011 12:00 PM

once you learn to elevate it on your backhand simply go forehand, backhand, shelf.

when you're practicing your backhand try using your toe to scoop it nice and high

Toasty95 07-24-2011 12:04 PM

Yea, just keep it simple. When you are able to elevate your backhand, I find that the most effective move on a breakaway is to go forehand, with a tiny fake shot, then backhand up high. The fake shot is just a tiny flick of the wrist, but usually it freezes the goalie into thinking its a shot.

esuhock22 07-24-2011 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyler Biggs (Post 35329529)
Yea, just keep it simple. When you are able to elevate your backhand, I find that the most effective move on a breakaway is to go forehand, with a tiny fake shot, then backhand up high. The fake shot is just a tiny flick of the wrist, but usually it freezes the goalie into thinking its a shot.

This is my favorite, but like others said you need to obviously mix it up. Don't over think them and see what your options are. Going in on a breakaway nervous and thinking a million miles per hour probably won't lead to much success. Be calm, confident, and know what you are good at, whether it's shooting five hole, backhand top shelf, or whatever.

Terror91 07-24-2011 01:19 PM

I do the same, forehand, backhand, shelf.
But I do try and mix it up. A lot of the time, if you do a side-to-side deke, the goalie opens the legs and the 5-hole is all open. Slide it in. Nothing frustrates a goaltender more.

cptjeff 07-24-2011 01:19 PM

Get the goalie moving by coming across laterally some and slide it back through the 5 hole.

Really, what you need to do is stop thinking. Don't plan anything, just toss a little fake out there and let the goalie bite. Let your mind read what he's doing and react. If you consciously think about it, it won't work. Your unconscious processes that kind of thing much much faster and much more completely. Just spend practice time watching various goalies and seeing how they move when you shoot or deke. Your mind will learn it eventually.

Achronos19 07-24-2011 01:40 PM

Go Datsyuk all over the goalie. I never realized how that move could throw the goalie so far off until I started doing it. No way I'll be able to pull that off full speed so it's usually only for shootouts. In game just stick to simple moves especially if you are coming in hot. Simple forehand to backhand or opposite. Five hole (and low in general) works great in the lower leagues.

ComradeChris 07-24-2011 01:46 PM

Low blocker a few inches off the ice. Hardest for goalies to stop especially if a left hand shot. Once you get a reputation for a good shot then you can start doing other things like fake shooting to deke. Have to make a goalie respect your shot before you deke...

BacklundtoBartschi* 07-24-2011 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Achronos19 (Post 35331401)
Go Datsyuk all over the goalie. I never realized how that move could throw the goalie so far off until I started doing it. No way I'll be able to pull that off full speed so it's usually only for shootouts. In game just stick to simple moves especially if you are coming in hot. Simple forehand to backhand or opposite. Five hole (and low in general) works great in the lower leagues.

This works almost every time.

LA Kings Hockey 07-24-2011 03:55 PM

most of the time i would just go with a five hole shot or a blocker side top shelf snipe.
sometimes if im feeling lucky i spinorama.

SwolePatrol 07-24-2011 05:46 PM

fake shot, backhand goal

Subnordi 07-24-2011 06:02 PM

Fake a slapper, for hand to back hand, usually works for me.

OpenIceHit42 07-24-2011 06:25 PM

I came in last night in a pickup game and was about 10 feet from the keeper and threw my right glove, absolutely froze him and went back hand stick side under the bar :laugh:

ddawg1950 07-24-2011 06:57 PM

Okay, most of these suggestions are great, but I'd like to break it down a bit for you if you'll bear with me.

I started getting a lot of break aways when I started playing rec hockey. But I wasn't scoring much. So I decided I would practice one basic move and perfect it before moving on. A couple of posters mentioned this, I'd just like to add some detail.

You can do this with a stick and ball or stick and puck if you have regular access to ice time. But I started with a stick and floor hockey puck. Practice makes perfect, btw.

First: Go in on net and just shoot the puck to the corner of the net on your forehand. What you also need to do is be very aware of your body position as you do this. Most people drop their shoulder a bit and transfer their weight to their back foot. While you are monitoring your body position, make sure you look at the exact spot of the net you are shooting at. Over and over.

This is a simple stuff, but the main thing to practice is the awareness of your body position as you shoot from the forehand...as well as looking at that empty space of the net.

Second, once you have practiced this...and become very aware of your body position, now you fake the shot and move it to the backhand. Faking the shot should still have you drop the shoulder, tranfer weight to your back foot and eye that empty part of the net you are faking your shot on the forehand. This is all designed to freeze the goalie.

And then you move the puck to your back hand.

Third, when you make the move to your backhand, make sure you bring the puck completely to the other side of the net and tuck the puck in that opposite corner. And keep practicing this. After a while start putting the puck up top off the backhand. After a certain level of competence, you may experiment with the idea that the goalie will make the big move to come across. As you get proficient, sometimes slide the puck along the ice into the net somewhere around the middle. This is where the goalie has opened up the 5 hole in the big move to come across.

Fourth, if you practice practice practice you will relax doing this move and start to see the open spots. Never look at the goalie's pads, always look for the spaces of open net. They are there.

Fifth...as you become really good (and relaxed) add in one final move. From the backhand bring the puck all the way back to the forehand once the goalie has made the big slide to stop your backhand goal. The goalie slides across, you have tranferred the puck to the forehand and he is out fetching hot dogs.

Practice practice practice is the key until your body remembers the move and you don't have to think much. Finally, as you begin to test this out in game situations, always decide on your move before you get in. Changing your mind in the midst of a move usually cause the puck to dribble off your stick.

Off this basic stuff you have a number of options. Shoot from the forehand to the corner of the net. Move to Backhand to the far side, on the ice. Backhand to the middle, along the ice. Backhand to the far side, up top. And backhand to forehand either up top or if there's room, along the ice.

Sorry for being long winded, but once I did this I started scoring on most of my breakaways. And I continued doing this playing old timers hockey. I was relaxed and knew what I was going to do off the options I had. Once I got better at it, I could relax to the point where I felt I could manipulate the goaltender.

Sorry for being long winded...but goal scoring is just so damned much fun.

noobman 07-24-2011 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devil Dancer (Post 35328247)
I suck at breakaways.

Short version: What works for you on breakaways?

Long version: I play in two C leagues in Maryland, so the competition level isn't too high. I'm one of the better players on both of my teams. I have very good speed for this level, and a decent but inconsistent and inaccurate shot.

Because I have decent speed, I get around 1 breakaway per game, but I don't score on them much. Help? What should I do?

Usually I take a look at the goalie and try to take a forehand shot where I see some space. It usually doesn't work. I tried going backhand for a while, but I have some difficulty elevating backhand shots in close, so I end up hitting an extended leg pad. I've been practicing elevating my backhand, but it isn't consistent yet.

Thoughts? Suggestions? Tricks & tips?

You can go backhand and try to tuck the puck 5-hole, or go backhand and pull it back forehand for the shot.

If I'm feelin' fancy, the Forsberg move is a go-to move for me.

ponder 07-25-2011 01:29 AM

I basically have a couple go to moves, key points:
- If I have a really open break away (at least a couple strides on the defender), I'll try to work in some side to side movement on the way in to keep the goalie off guard
- If the goalie is playing deep in his net, I'll simply pull a quick release snapper to wherever he's leaving space. I shoot right, angles are better shooting to the same side (so my right, the goalie's left), with most goalies this means glove side. I prefer to go just over the pad, glove side, but if he's holding his glove low I'll go high glove. If I'm shooting I don't really throw fakes in, I have a quick and hard release so I just rely on that, again I only shoot when the goalie is playing deep so there generally IS space to shoot at
- If the goalie is out challenging, I'll fake a shot forehand, then go backhand shelf if possible, or backhand 5-hole if the goalie is really staying with me, I prefer backhand shelf though. Make sure to start your move/fake shot decently far out though, get in too close before starting and you risk getting poke checked
- If the goalie is really quick, and really positionally sound (cutting off the shooting angles but not out in no man's land), then I'm basically just screwed :/ Luckily most goalies are not that awesome though. Occasionally I'll try fake forehand, then fake backhand and back to forehand (shelf, or just slide it in), but at full speed I don't really have the hands to pull it off, more of a shootout move for me, and honestly not as reliable as my more simple moves. If you have great hands this can be deadly though

Jarick 07-25-2011 09:41 AM

Maybe it's just me, but I have never scored five hole on a breakaway. I've tried, probably 20-30 times, and never scored. Goalies always drop down too quick. I've also tried the forehand backhand many, many times but the goalies always read it.

My move is shoot high glove. Probably works 50% of the time. Just a quick shot. Try and get the goalie back in his net a bit, keep the puck out a bit, and then quickly drag it in and shoot.

tarheelhockey 07-25-2011 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by cptjeff (Post 35330893)
Really, what you need to do is stop thinking. Don't plan anything, just toss a little fake out there and let the goalie bite. Let your mind read what he's doing and react. If you consciously think about it, it won't work.

This. Your brain isn't going to help you in the 1-2 seconds you have to react to being on a breakaway. Once you're in the right position, you really need to switch off and let your muscle memory take over. Thinking causes tension in your movements which leads to flubbed shots and ironically worse decisions.

If you try to consciously orchestrate your movements in a situation like that, you'll just end up even more frustrated when your body doesn't do what it's "supposed" to do.

nukethewhales 07-25-2011 10:52 AM

Triple deke, stop at the blueline and take a slapshot.

It's worked every time except once.

West 07-25-2011 10:54 AM

First assuming that you are a left handed shot and I'll run through the basics (1 and 4 are far and away the most important).

1) Never ever skate straight at the net. Skate to a point 6-8 feet off one of the posts. This will make the goalie have to continuously re-adjust his angles as you come in for a shot.

It's also great for dekes as your first move is cutting hard to the opposite post or just going straight. If you do it right you'll can have more or less an empty net.

2) Remember that the puck will usually be a few feet off to your side which means small holes to the left of the goalie are actually large holes and small holes on the right are illusions.

Find video called Puck eye view. This will give you an even better idea of what your actually shooting at.

3) Mentioned earlier always look past the goalie, never look at the goalie. More often than not you hit what your looking at. During warm up try to spot something in the back of the net to target. Where I play there is an extra thick part of the mesh in the top corners. Don't practice hitting the post because you will!!!

4) People have mentioned disguising you shot which is good. On break-away one of the best disguise is looking where you don't plan on shooting. Most people look where they are going to shoot and goalies know it. If you come in looking bottom left the goalie has plenty of time to make sure he's 100% got it covered creating holes in other places.

Or at the very least don't stare at where you going to shoot on the way in (sounds like you might do this). You don't go in looking to execute your perfect move. Your looking to pounce on the goalies big fat mistake. Your perfect move is plan B.

Hope this helps.


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