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The Kremelin Wall* 07-27-2011 02:30 PM

Nathan Beaulieu rating
 
How would you rate him using HF's criteria?

Crusher20 07-27-2011 02:32 PM

10a+

:)

Seriously... 7.5b

Andy 07-27-2011 02:33 PM

Explain to people how the system works so that they are at least making informed decisions rather than Homer ones.

The Kremelin Wall* 07-27-2011 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koseegin (Post 35428175)
Explain to people how the system works so that they are at least making informed decisions rather than Homer ones.

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/playerprojections/

CareyClutch 07-27-2011 02:36 PM

I'll guess a 7.5 c

pc_md 07-27-2011 02:41 PM

10 - Generational talent -- a player for the ages, one who can do things with a puck that no other player would even contemplate doing. Very, very few players will be deserving of this rating, probably one per decade. Think Wayne Gretzky, Mario Lemieux, Bobby Orr, maybe Sidney Crosby, but we'll see.

9 - Elite forward / defenseman / goaltender -- possesses the potential for greatness, a perennial All-Star throughout his career. Think Joe Sakic, Jeremy Roenick, Niklas Lidstrom, Rob Blake, Dominik Hasek, Martin Brodeur.

8 - First line forward / No. 2 defenseman / No. 1 goaltender -- players with definite skill that might be just a cut below elite status, but still possessing All-Star potential. Think Patrik Elias, Keith Tkachuk, Mattias Ohlund, Adam Foote, Sean Burke, Olaf Kolzig.

7 - Second line forward / No. 3-4 defenseman / journeyman No. 1 goaltender -- players not quite good enough to play on the top line or pairing on a regular basis, but still possessing enough talent to contribute offensively, defend with some authority, or competently play the goaltender's position for long stretches. Think Andrew Cassels, Jason Arnott, Darryl Sydor, Keith Carney, Dwayne Roloson, Jeff Hackett.

6 - Third line forward / No. 5-6 defenseman / Backup Goaltender -- generally speaking, players whose game is defensively-oriented, or whose abilities aren't quite good enough to land full-time duty on the 2nd line, top two defensive pairings, or the No. 1 goaltending position. Think Kris Draper, Stephanne Yelle, Igor Ulanov, Brad Lukowich, Jussi Markkanen, Manny Legace.

5 - Fourth line forward / No. 7 defenseman / depth goaltender -- players that populate the 4th line, will fill in for injured defensemen, or have some ability to play goal in the NHL but are mostly very good minor league goaltenders. Think of any enforcer you care to name, or any energy player you care to name, or any unlucky defensemen or goaltenders that don't quite have enough talent to crack an NHL lineup full time.

4 - Top minor league forward / defenseman / goaltender -- players unlikely to have long careers in the NHL, but will be recalled when injuries or other circumstances arise.

3 - Average minor league forward / defenseman / goaltender -- players who will in all likelihood will spend their entire careers in the minor leagues.

2 - Minor league role-player -- players who populate minor league rosters that have virtually no shot of making it to the NHL.

1 - Borderline minor league player -- players one step away from the beer leagues.
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A - All but guaranteed to reach potential - 100 percent metaphysical certitude that the player will play up to his abilities as noted by his potential rating. In this case, the potential rating is multiplied by 100 percent for depth chart purposes, signaling that the player is a lock to reach his given potential.

B - Should reach potential, could drop 1 rating - likely to reach potential, but may have a hole or two in his game that will keep him from reaching his full potential. The potential rating is multiplied by 90 percent for depth chart purposes, which indicates slightly less certainty about a player’s future performance.

C - May reach potential, could drop 2 ratings - has shown some flashes, but may ultimately not have what it takes to reach his potential. The potential rating is multiplied by 80 percent for depth chart purposes to show the uncertainty of a player reaching his potential.

D - Unlikely to reach potential, could drop 3 ratings - a player who has a chance to reach his potential but is unlikely to do so. The potential rating is multiplied by 70 percent for depth chart purposes, indicating that the player's potential is extremely fluid.

F - A player possessing little potential who has a mountain to climb just to reach the outermost boundary of that potential. The potential rating is multiplied by 50 percent depth chart purposes

kassian 07-27-2011 02:41 PM

7.5B seems right to me.

pc_md 07-27-2011 02:43 PM

Anything between 7.0 and 7.5 C...

Stjonnypopo 07-27-2011 02:50 PM

8.0C for me. Maybe I was a bit generous with the number but I think he's a good pick for a C.

They're notoriously tough with their rankings. I think a lot of people would agree that he's got some great potential, he was drafted as the type of guy who end up on the top pairing somewhere. Now we just have to wait and see if he pans out!

hototogisu 07-27-2011 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pc_md (Post 35428459)
8 - First line forward / No. 2 defenseman / No. 1 goaltender -- players with definite skill that might be just a cut below elite status, but still possessing All-Star potential. Think Patrik Elias, Keith Tkachuk, Mattias Ohlund, Adam Foote, Sean Burke, Olaf Kolzig.

C - May reach potential, could drop 2 ratings - has shown some flashes, but may ultimately not have what it takes to reach his potential. The potential rating is multiplied by 80 percent for depth chart purposes to show the uncertainty of a player reaching his potential.

8.0C sounds about right to me. I think he definitely has #2 D-man potential. Getting there is another question, but that's why he's a C instead of an A or a B.

wedge 07-27-2011 02:51 PM

7.5B makes a lot of sense

ruski17 07-27-2011 02:53 PM

8.0D would be perfect. I'm worried about the fact that his numbers didn't get better from last year with the Sea Dogs. So he could not develop much anymore. That being said, he still could turn into a steady top 4 defenceman.

hogtownhabsfan* 07-27-2011 02:55 PM

8.0C all the way. Could end up a #2, or could end up a bottom pairing PP specialist...

neofury* 07-27-2011 02:57 PM

7.0A
8.0B
9.0C
10.0D

One of these :)

Andy 07-27-2011 02:58 PM

What I gather from most posters/scouts and what I've seen from him, Beaulieu(unless something really goes wrong within the next couple of years) is pretty much set to play in the nhl. The question that remains is just what type of player he'll develop into(bottom 2 d-man or top 4).

Jakomyte 07-27-2011 03:15 PM

8.0C

Top line potential, could end up only being a bottom pairing PP specialist, but that to me is as low as he'll go assuming no catastrophic injuries hit.

Maxpac 07-27-2011 03:24 PM

Hf ratings are the only thing that people severely underrate players, a 7.5?? Really?? That kid was suppose to be top 10 and was the #1 D of the best CHL team, how does he not have #1D potential?

Fozz 07-27-2011 03:27 PM

I think he'll at worst a 3-4 dman with potential to be a first pairing guy.

8B

The Kremelin Wall* 07-27-2011 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxpac (Post 35430107)
Hf ratings are the only thing that people severely underrate players, a 7.5?? Really?? That kid was suppose to be top 10 and was the #1 D of the best CHL team, how does he not have #1D potential?

Well to be fair they probably haven't looked at the Edmonton/whoever HF is high on the the time prospect pool and seen every single one of them rated 7.5C. You'd think Edmonton was a dynasty with all their first line players.

FF de Mars 07-27-2011 03:41 PM

7.5A, but who knows ? it's hard to predict his progression so early. He might deceive or impress us. He has all the tools to suceed, though.

Vasculio 07-27-2011 06:00 PM

8.0C for me, could become a pretty good and complete D, but could also only develop his offense and become a specialist. We'll see...

Mathradio 07-27-2011 06:26 PM

A 7.5-8.0c...

JHabs 07-27-2011 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxpac (Post 35430107)
Hf ratings are the only thing that people severely underrate players, a 7.5?? Really?? That kid was suppose to be top 10 and was the #1 D of the best CHL team, how does he not have #1D potential?

I have him at 8.5C

LyricalLyricist 07-27-2011 06:34 PM

8.0C, nothing else makes sense at this point. He was drafted with potential to be a top pairing ofd but may not reach there. After a year that number may be 7.5B or 8.0B or whatever, but for now, given his age and room to grow and mature, 8.0C seems logical.

NewHabsEra* 07-27-2011 06:49 PM

7.5 or 8 C

The kid is obviously very skilled but needs improvement on the fundamental parts of the game.. I see this pick as risky but that could pay alot at the end.. Could miss prospect/highly reward type of prospect..


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