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DMaz16 08-01-2011 08:57 PM

Jets 2011 Top-20 Prospects #7
 
Number 1
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Mark Scheifele (C) - Barrie Colts (OHL)
Selected Round 1, #7 Overall in the 2011 NHL Entry Draft

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Number 2
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Carl Klingberg (LW) - Timra IK (SEL)
Selected Round 2, #34 Overall in the 2009 NHL Entry Draft

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Number 3
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Patrice Cormier (C) - Winnipeg Jets (NHL)
Selected Round 2, #54 Overall in the 2008 NHL Entry Draft

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Number 4
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Jason Gregoire (LW) - University of North Dakota (WCHA)
Selected Round 3, #76 Overall in the 2007 NHL Entry Draft

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Number 5
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Paul Postma (D) - Chicago Wolves (AHL)
Selected Round 7, #205 Overall in the 2007 NHL Entry Draft

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Number 6
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Ivan Telegin (C)- Barrie Colts (OHL)
Selected Round 4, #101 Overall in the 2010 NHL Entry Draft

Paradise 08-01-2011 09:06 PM

Thanks for keeping up with these draft rankings Mr.M:yo:

AndersUlfBobby 08-01-2011 09:12 PM

Well, I voted for Spencer Machacek in round 6 and he didn't win, so I guess I gotta try again.

Spencer Machacek.


BTW, once all the voting is done, is someone going to change the prospects banner up top to match the voting?

AugustBurnsRed* 08-01-2011 09:23 PM

Btw, Telegin is a Barrie Colt.

Uhm.. Machacek I guess. I think Lowry has more potential though

PostmanPat1919 08-01-2011 09:24 PM

Machacek. Add Edward Pasquale.

AndersUlfBobby 08-01-2011 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AugustBurnsRed (Post 35580899)
Btw, Telegin is a Barrie Colt.

http://www.barriecolts.com/article/j...orward-telegin

TyBOZAK* 08-01-2011 09:28 PM

How is O'Dell in second? :laugh:

AugustBurnsRed* 08-01-2011 09:47 PM

I thought the system was extremely mediocre/bad before this last draft, but with the addition of Scheifele, Lowry and Yuen.. I think it's at least middle of the pack now.

Rhodes 81 08-01-2011 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndersUlfBobby (Post 35580505)
Well, I voted for Spencer Machacek in round 6 and he didn't win, so I guess I gotta try again.

Spencer Machacek.


BTW, once all the voting is done, is someone going to change the prospects banner up top to match the voting?

that is the official HF rankings and will be updated after they release their pre-season rankings

Hank Chinaski 08-01-2011 10:05 PM

Add Edward Pasquale, please.

Thanks Mr. Mo for keeping this going.

DMaz16 08-02-2011 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AugustBurnsRed (Post 35580899)
Btw, Telegin is a Barrie Colt.

Uhm.. Machacek I guess. I think Lowry has more potential though

Yes he is, thanks for reminding me

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paradise (Post 35580307)
Thanks for keeping up with these draft rankings Mr.M:yo:

No problem it's my pleasure :)

WJG 08-02-2011 01:56 AM

I predict Machacek at #7, Maxwell at #8 and Kulda at #9.

Le Golie 08-02-2011 02:22 AM

Lowry gets my vote as our best prospect at this point.

Also, I'm surprised how much love there is for Machacek and how little there is for Maxwell. Very comparable development for the two of them, a bit of an edge to Maxwell.

TroubaFan1 08-02-2011 02:34 AM

I vote Machacek

Howe Elbows 9 08-02-2011 06:02 AM

Add Pasquale.

Guerzy 08-02-2011 09:24 AM

Going with O'Dell again here.

I'm not sold on Machecek and as Le Golie touched on between him and Maxwell, I personally like Maxwell better. But, I can't vote for Machecek here because I personally think he'll be a career AHL'er or fringe checking line guy at the NHL level, where as O'Dell in my opinion carries pretty strong top 6-9 scoring potential, though he isn't proven at the AHL level yet, so I can see why Machecek would get votes here.

It's a big year for O'Dell, I think. If he can have a solid year in the AHL, I think his stock rises a lot. If he is healthy, and by all indications he is, he should be a good one, I think. Still can't believe he was 9 picks shy of being a 1st round pick by Anaheim in 2008 after playing just 26 OHL games. That is so impressive to me, and says a lot about the player.

Joe Hallenback 08-02-2011 09:54 AM

Going with O'Dell. Was having a pretty good season when he got hurt.

Guerzy 08-02-2011 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Hallenback (Post 35593061)
Going with O'Dell. Was having a pretty good season when he got hurt.

Other way around. He missed the first half of the season as he had his heart procedure at or near the end of last summer I believe it was, it was in the offseason nonetheless. So, he missed the first half of the season (returned December 10th) and dominated upon his return.

That is what intrigues me here, is he didn't play, play well, then miss time. He missed time, returned, and played extremely well. Which leads me to believe at this point in time, he is healthy and in good condition to be playing hockey. Will this issue effect him down the road? maybe, who knows. But as of right now he looks good.

Here are his game-by-game stats. Which are so impressive for a player who missed as significant amount of time as he did.

http://www.ontariohockeyleague.com/r...9/ls_season/42

cneely 08-02-2011 10:24 AM

Never followed Atlanta at all, and reading this thread, I was very disappointed at the quality of prospects in the system...

Then you realize guys like Kane, Bogosian, Little, Burmistrov are all already with the big club, and my concern over their scouting is alleviated... :D

AugustBurnsRed* 08-02-2011 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cneely (Post 35593673)
Never followed Atlanta at all, and reading this thread, I was very disappointed at the quality of prospects in the system...

Then you realize guys like Kane, Bogosian, Little, Burmistrov are all already with the big club, and my concern over their scouting is alleviated... :D

It's not actually that bad.

cneely 08-02-2011 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AugustBurnsRed (Post 35599713)
It's not actually that bad.

Considering how poorly they've been finishing over the last 10 years, I'd expect more.

The point is, though, that the best prospects are already playing. Even if they are high picks, guys the age of Kane and Burmistrov are rarely ready to play at the NHL level.

AugustBurnsRed* 08-02-2011 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cneely (Post 35600117)
Considering how poorly they've been finishing over the last 10 years, I'd expect more.

The point is, though, that the best prospects are already playing. Even if they are high picks, guys the age of Kane and Burmistrov are rarely ready to play at the NHL level.

Oh yeah, if you're using that then it would look pretty mediocre.

Paradise 08-02-2011 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guerzy (Post 35593349)
Other way around. He missed the first half of the season as he had his heart procedure at or near the end of last summer I believe it was, it was in the offseason nonetheless. So, he missed the first half of the season (returned December 10th) and dominated upon his return.

That is what intrigues me here, is he didn't play, play well, then miss time. He missed time, returned, and played extremely well. Which leads me to believe at this point in time, he is healthy and in good condition to be playing hockey. Will this issue effect him down the road? maybe, who knows. But as of right now he looks good.

Here are his game-by-game stats. Which are so impressive for a player who missed as significant amount of time as he did.

http://www.ontariohockeyleague.com/r...9/ls_season/42

I think you're under estimating how serious his health issues could be at the NHL level. We're talking about a heart issues, not a broken arm. The speed of the game is a lot faster and the conditioning of the players is a lot better. Having that hole in his heart could possibly be a big stumbling block for O'Dell. I would of ranked him a lot higher, but until he's pretty much proven he can handle the daily grind of the NHL, he'll continue to be passed by other prospects IMO. It's just too risky to assume he'll ever have an NHL career, much less a normal life. I'll definitely be paying close attention to his health this season.

Guerzy 08-02-2011 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paradise (Post 35601559)
I think you're under estimating how serious his health issues could be at the NHL level. We're talking about a heart issues, not a broken arm. The speed of the game is a lot faster and the conditioning of the players is a lot better. Having that hole in his heart could possibly be a big stumbling block for O'Dell. I would of ranked him a lot higher, but until he's pretty much proven he can handle the daily grind of the NHL, he'll continue to be passed by other prospects IMO. It's just too risky to assume he'll ever have an NHL career, much less a normal life. I'll definitely be paying close attention to his health this season.

I'm not underestimating anything. As I said, he is healthy and in good condition to be playing hockey. Will this issue effect him down the road? maybe, who knows. One thing that is clear is he has resumed playing, which indicates right now, today, doctors deem him a healthy enough individual to play the game, which is a huge plus. He will be monitored closely his entire career, and likely life. I have little worries about his condition until it proves something to be worried about.

As I said, it may or may not effect him down the road, I understand that. But, what I do know is as of today, he is a healthy and fit athlete playing the game of hockey, and I am choosing to rate him as just that. His skills are far superior to Machecek in my opinion, and i'll gladly rate him accordingly until he proves me wrong.

My cousin has the same issue, i'm well aware of what it is.

Paradise 08-02-2011 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guerzy (Post 35601735)
I'm not underestimating anything. As I said, he is healthy and in good condition to be playing hockey. Will this issue effect him down the road? maybe, who knows. One thing that is clear is he has resumed playing, which indicates right now, today, doctors deem him a healthy enough individual to play the game, which is a huge plus. He will be monitored closely his entire career, and likely life. I have little worries about his condition until it proves something to be worried about.

As I said, it may or may not effect him down the road, I understand that. But, what I do know is as of today, he is a healthy and fit athlete playing the game of hockey, and I am choosing to rate him as just that. His skills are far superior to Machecek or Maxwell, and i'll gladly rate him accordingly, in my opinion.

My cousin has the same issue, i'm well aware of what it is.

I agree with you Guerzy that he's a lot more skilled than most of our prospects and I would like to rate him higher, I just can't until he proves he can handle the AHL/NHL daily grind. IMO His health is just too big a red flag for me to rate him higher.


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