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Mr. Canucklehead 08-23-2011 10:27 AM

Training Camp Discussion (UPD: Canucks cut Jensen, Schroeder, Duco, Lack, Sauve)
 
With the opening of Prospect Camp and, subsequently, the main training camp just a few weeks away, I thought it would be good to start a thread for us to discuss the players, who's performing well and who's not, the invites, and our own predictions for the camp.

I'll also try to keep the roster lists up to date as we get more information.

Quote:

Vancouver, B.C. – The Vancouver Canucks announced today the expected roster and schedule of their Prospects Training Camp opening Friday, September 9th in Vancouver. Following medicals and testing in Vancouver, the Canucks Prospects Training Camp will relocate to Penticton, BC, where on-ice practice sessions/pre-game skates will be open to the public. Admission to practices at the South Okanagan Events Centre (SOEC) is complimentary. For more information regarding tickets for the Young Stars Tournament please go to canucks.com/youngstars.

30 players are scheduled to report to Rogers Arena on Friday, September 9th for medicals and fitness testing. Players will be available to the media at Rogers Arena beginning at 9:30 a.m. Media should enter the building through Gate 16, located on Abbott Street.

Canucks prospects will practice in Penticton, BC, on Saturday, September 10th at 12:00 p.m. followed by media availability.

All eight games of the Young Stars Tournament will be available live on Canucks.com beginning September 11th. Tickets for the Young Stars Tournament are currently available for purchase at www.valleyfirstTIX.com, by phone at 1-877-763-2849 or in person at the South Okanagan Events Centre box office. Limited tournament packages are still available at a cost of $100. Game dates, times and opponents may be subject to change. Full details on the Young Stars Tournament can be found at canucks.com/youngstars.

Please note rosters and schedule are subject to change. For the most up-to-date information, please call the media hotline at 604-899-4995.

The veterans will report to Rogers Arena Friday, September 16thfor medicals, testing and media availability. The Main Camp roster and schedule will be released at a later date.

The complete schedule is available in PDF form here.
http://canucks.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=587561

2011-12 Vancouver Canucks Training Camp Roster - Who's Left:
DEFENCEMEN
41 Alberts, Andrew D 6'5" 218 Minneapolis, MN, USA June 30, 1981 Vancouver (NHL) 42 1 6 7
4 Ballard, Keith D 5'10" 202 Baudette, MN, USA November 26, 1982 Vancouver (NHL) 65 2 5 7
44 Baumgartner, Nolan D 6'2" 205 Calgary, AB, CAN March 23, 1976 Manitoba (AHL) 66 4 25 29
3 Bieksa, Kevin D 6'1" 198 Grimsby, ON, CAN June 16 1981 Vancouver (NHL) 66 6 16 22
23 Edler, Alexander D 6'3" 194 Ostersund, SWE April 21, 1986 Vancouver (NHL) 51 8 25 33
5 Eriksson, Anders D 6'3" 224 Bollnas, SWE January 9, 1975 Modo/Timra (SEL) 31 2 11 13
2 Hamhuis, Dan D 6'0" 204 Smithers, BC, CAN December 13, 1982 Vancouver (NHL) 64 6 17 23
7 Parent, Ryan D 6'2" 205 Prince Albert, SK, CAN March 17, 1987 Manitoba (AHL) 39 1 1 2
29 Rome, Aaron D 6'1" 223 Nesbitt, MN, CAN September 27, 1983 Vancouver (NHL) 56 1 4 5
6 Salo, Sami D 6'3" 215 Turku, FIN September 2, 1975 Vancouver (NHL) 27 3 4 7
52 Sulzer, Alexander D 6'2" 213 Khaufbeuren, GER May 30, 1984 Florida/Nashville (NHL) 40 1 4 5
8 Tanev, Chris D 6'2' 183 Toronto, ON, CAN December 20, 1989 Vancouver (NHL) 29 0 1 1

FORWARDS
No. PLAYER POS HT WT HOMETOWN DATE 2010-11 CLUB GP G A PTS PIM
00 Bitz, Byron 6'5" 215 Saskatoon, SK, CAN July 21, 1984 N/A 0 0 0 0 (INJURED)
14 Burrows, Alexandre W 6'0" 189 Pincourt, QUE, CAN April 11 1981 Vancouver (NHL) 72 26 22 48
79 Duco, Mike 5'10" 200 Toronto, ON, CAN July 8, 1987 Rochester (AHL) 67 20 11 31
25 Ebbett, Andrew C 5'9" 174 Calgary, AB, CAN January 2, 1983 Phoenix (NHL) 33 2 3 5
55 Fedoruk, Todd W 6'2" 232 Redwater, AB, CAN February 13, 1979 N/A 0 0 0 0
36 Hansen, Jannik W 6'1" 195 Herlev, DEN March 15, 1986 Vancouver (NHL) 82 9 20 29
20 Higgins, Chris W 6'0" 205 Smithtown, NY, USA June 2, 1983 Florida/Vancouver (NHL) 62 13 15 28
39 Hodgson, Cody C 6'0" 185 Toronto, ON, CAN February 18, 1990 Manitoba (AHL) 52 17 13 30
46 Jensen, Nicklas W 6’3” 187 Herning, DEN Mar 16 1993 Oshawa (OHL) 61 29 29 58 42
17 Kesler, Ryan 6'2" 205 Livonia, MI, USA August 31, 1984 Vancouver (NHL) 82 41 34 73 (INJURED)
40 Lapierre, Maxim 6'2" 207 St. Leonard, QUE, CAN March 29, 1985 Montreal/Anaheim/Vancouver 78 6 6 12
25 Mancari, Mark 6'3" 225 London, ON, CAN July 11, 1985 Portland (AHL) 56 32 32 64
27 Malhotra, Manny 6'3" 220 Mississauga, ON, CAN May 18, 1980 Vancouver (NHL) 72 11 19 30
38 Oreskovich, Victor 6'3" 215 Whitby, ON, CAN August 15, 1986 Manitoba (AHL) 40 4 8 12
13 Pinizzotto, Steve 6'1" 195 Mississauga, ON, CAN April 26, 1984 Hershey (AHL) 68 17 25 42 (INJURED)
21 Raymond, Mason 6'0" 185 Cochrane, AB, CAN September 17, 1985 Vancouver (NHL) 70 15 23 39 (INJURED)
26 Samuelsson, Mikael 6'2" 218 Mariefried, SWE December 23, 1976 Vancouver (NHL) 75 18 32 50
45 Schroeder, Jordan C 5’9” 180 Prior Lake, MN Sep 29 1990 Manitoba (AHL) 61 10 18 28 10
22 Sedin, Daniel W 6'1" 187 Ornskoldsvik, SWE September 26, 1980 Vancouver (NHL) 82 41 63 104
33 Sedin, Henrik C 6'2" 188 Ornskoldsvik, SWE September 26, 1980 Vancouver (NHL) 82 19 75 94
15 Sturm, Marco W 6'0" 194 Dingolfing, GER September 8, 1978 Washington/Los Angeles (NHL) 35 5 11 16
54 Volpatti, Aaron W 6'1" 201 Revelstoke, BC, CAN May 30, 1985 Manitoba (AHL) 53 2 9 11

GOALTENDERS:
No. PLAYER POS HT WT HOMETOWN DATE 2010-11 CLUB GP G A PTS PIM

1 Roberto Luongo G 6'3" 217 Montreal, QUE, CAN April 4, 1979 Vancouver (NHL) 60 38 15 7
35 Cory Schneider G 6'2" 195 Marblehead, MA, USA March 18, 1986 Vancouver (NHL) 25 16 4 2
31 Eddie Lack G 6'5" 194 Norrtalje, SWE January 5, 1988 Manitoba (AHL) 53 28 21 4

ItsAllPartOfThePlan 08-23-2011 10:59 AM

Wow. It has felt like a long summer.

billvanseattle 08-23-2011 12:44 PM

Someone want to put up the voted top prospects on this list. I wanted to see how it compared. I think Hodgson was the only one on the list in the (Unofficial) main camp.

Lucbourdon 08-23-2011 12:46 PM

Thank the heavens, hockey is soon among us.

Bobby Lou 08-23-2011 12:46 PM

Interested to see what Archibald can do in camp; he's a big boy who apparently plays with an edge. Could be an outside shot at a bottom six wing spot?

Timmer44 08-23-2011 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Canucklehead (Post 36138663)

Rookie Camp: (unofficial)
F Alex Friesen
F Prab Rai
F Stefan Schneider
F Jordan Schroeder
F Kellan Tochkin
F Bill Sweatt
F Ryan Harrison (Junior Invite)
F Aaron Volpatti
F Steven Anthony
F Darren Archibald
F Anton Rodin
F Nicklas Jensen
F Alexandre Grenier
D Sebastian Erixon
D Peter Andersson
D Chris Tanev
D Kevin Connauton
D Taylor Ellington
D Sawyer Hannay
D Adam Polasek
D Yann Sauve
D Frankie Corrado
G Eddie Lack
G David Honzik

Main Camp: (unofficial)
F Byron Bitz
F Alexandre Burrows
F Mike Duco
F Andrew Ebbett
F Todd Fedoruk (Invite)
F Jannik Hansen
F Chris Higgins
F Cody Hodgson
F Ryan Kesler (possibly injured to start)
F Maxim Lapierre
F Manny Malhotra
F Mark Mancari
F Owen Nolan (Invite)
F Steve Pinizzotto
F Mason Raymond (injured to start)
F Mikael Samuelsson
F Daniel Sedin
F Henrik Sedin
F Marco Sturm
D Andrew Alberts
D Keith Ballard
D Nolan Baumgartner
D Kevin Bieksa
D Alexander Edler
D Dan Hamhuis
D Ryan Parent
D Aaron Rome
D Sami Salo
D Alexander Sulzer
G Matt Climie
G Roberto Luongo
G Cory Schneider

Bolded who I'm most interested in. Parent could very well make this team out of camp. Mark Mancari has put up fantastic WHL numbers and can really throw em. I think he'll fight for a fourth line spot.

Luck 6 08-23-2011 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobby Lou (Post 36142077)
Interested to see what Archibald can do in camp; he's a big boy who apparently plays with an edge. Could be an outside shot at a bottom six wing spot?

I don't see it, even with the injuries. If you assume Kesler starts the season, and Sturm and Samuelsson play his wings then our competition for the bottom 6 is as followed:

Higgins, Malhotra, Hansen, LaPierre, Hodgson, Oreskovich, Mancari, Bitz, and Duco

The first 4 are locks, so we essentially have 2 spots open. Given that, I have no interest in having Archibald (or any of our prospects including Hodgson) playing 4th line minutes all season. Send em to Chicago and let em play some hockey, if we need em come playoffs then call em up.

Bobby Lou 08-23-2011 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Luck 6 (Post 36143263)
I don't see it, even with the injuries. If you assume Kesler starts the season, and Sturm and Samuelsson play his wings then our competition for the bottom 6 is as followed:

Higgins, Malhotra, Hansen, LaPierre, Hodgson, Oreskovich, Mancari, Bitz, and Duco

The first 4 are locks, so we essentially have 2 spots open. Given that, I have no interest in having Archibald (or any of our prospects including Hodgson) playing 4th line minutes all season. Send em to Chicago and let em play some hockey, if we need em come playoffs then call em up.

Bitz is the only guy with a NHL pedigree at all (and he was injured basically all last year); it's like listing Desbiens and Volpatti pre-camp last season...not really NHL talents, but they can fill in at points. I don't have much faith any of these AHL-types will be cracking a NHL roster any time soon when they all pretty much have under 40 NHL games a piece, and have a median age of around 26. And it's not like they're coming from particularly deep or successful organizations...Florida, Buffalo, etc.

Luck 6 08-23-2011 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobby Lou (Post 36143619)
Bitz is the only guy with a NHL pedigree at all (and he was injured basically all last year); it's like listing Desbiens and Volpatti pre-camp last season...not really NHL talents, but they can fill in at points. I don't have much faith any of these AHL-types will be cracking a NHL roster any time soon when they all pretty much have under 40 NHL games a piece, and have a median age of around 26. And it's not like they're coming from particularly deep or successful organizations...Florida, Buffalo, etc.

I dunno.. What about Mancari? He's been given very short stints in the NHL, and last season he managed 8 points in 20 games playing in Buffalo while averaging 12:19 per game. Technically, that's a 33 point pace. At 6'4 228 lbs hes a big body too, and his AHL scoring has improved over the last 3 seasons to a PPG pace (higher this last season). The guy seems to be able to play hockey, I certainly wouldnt rule him out as a potential 4th liner. I'm interested to see how he does in camp though and how he uses his body. He certainly has a better resume then guys like Volpatti going in though.

I bet you in the preseason this guy sees some time with Kesler just to see what he's capable of when playing with skilled team mates.

Callhee 08-23-2011 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luck 6 (Post 36143263)
I don't see it, even with the injuries. If you assume Kesler starts the season, and Sturm and Samuelsson play his wings then our competition for the bottom 6 is as followed:

Higgins, Malhotra, Hansen, LaPierre, Hodgson, Oreskovich, Mancari, Bitz, and Duco

The first 4 are locks, so we essentially have 2 spots open. Given that, I have no interest in having Archibald (or any of our prospects including Hodgson) playing 4th line minutes all season. Send em to Chicago and let em play some hockey, if we need em come playoffs then call em up.

I thought he's an RFA, have we signed him yet? Did i miss it?

keslerburrows 08-23-2011 02:57 PM

Really liking the competition for the 4th line wing spot. To me it's between Bitz, Oreo and Mancari ( I don't see Hodgson on the 4th line.) All 3 players are 6'3+. Looking forward to dressing atleast 2/3 of them against Calgary/ Edmonton :D

Bobby Lou 08-23-2011 03:25 PM

Other thing, maybe I'm thinking of a different player, but I don't think Mancari really plays to his size; isn't he more of a Taylor Pyatt type player? Big body, that rarely physically engages. His PIM's and fight card certainly do not indicate a player who is overly physical anyways. Oh, and skating problems...ya, sounds like Pyatt. Not that I have anything against Taylor Pyatt, but he's not fixing our toughness problems and I doubt Mancari is either.

I'd say Bitz is probably the favorite considering he's really the only one with size that seems to at least apply himself physically and occasionally fight.

vanuck 08-23-2011 05:23 PM

Wasn't Ian Saab confirmed to be an invite to prospect camp too, IIRC? I remember hearing it somewhere before...

Placebo Effect 08-23-2011 05:50 PM

Anyone know who is in town already? I know Connauton tweeted that he's back in Vancouver. Didn't mention if it was Canucks related but I'll guess so for now. Kesler isn't, as expected. I don't believe he was one of the players that came early last year and with his injury it's unlikely he will this year.

When did the veterans start arriving last year? I know Morrison skated with the team for awhile before he signed his PTO (in mid September). Rookie camp will start on September 9th if they're running on a similar schedule as last year with veteran camp starting on the 16th.

y2kcanucks 08-23-2011 05:57 PM

Sauve was in town a week or two ago, but I believe he's back in Quebec right now.

The Big Foot 08-23-2011 05:59 PM

I had already forgotten about Bitz. He'll make some noise in camp - if only because the media will make lame jokes about his name.

Really too bad McNally can't come to prospect camp. It really feels like he's not a part of the organization yet.

Nuck This 08-23-2011 06:20 PM

Let's hope Sauve looks both ways when crossing the street this time. I wanna get a good look at him this camp.

galiano 08-23-2011 06:32 PM

So will Joey Laleggia be at the prospects camp ?

Placebo Effect 08-23-2011 06:34 PM

He can't. College classes start soon. Only way he does is if the Canucks sign him.

pdefenestrator 08-23-2011 07:11 PM

How about the other Swedish twins? Or at least the one the Canucks have rights to?

windflare 08-23-2011 08:39 PM

Brendan Jensen has been invited to Rookie Camp.

thefeebster 08-23-2011 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vanuck (Post 36150979)
Wasn't Ian Saab confirmed to be an invite to prospect camp too, IIRC? I remember hearing it somewhere before...

Yes, from what I know, he is confirmed.

EDIT: Confirmed with a recent link: http://telegraphjournal.canadaeast.c...rticle/1433861
Quote:

Saab was thrilled when Saint John acquired him in the dispersal draft. His off-season got even better when Vancouver called while he was eating at Subway.

"I didn't even finish my sub,'' Saab said. "I went right home. It was one of the best days of my life. I thought they had the wrong number when they called. It's a great opportunity, being here and then going to Vancouver.''

Members of the Saint John coaching staff are excited to see how Saab responds.

"Vancouver obviously feels he has something to build his game around,'' Kelly said. "I think it's a great opportunity for him and we're thrilled he's getting the opportunity to go there. Hopefully, he can show enough there for them to say they have some interest in him.
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Originally Posted by pdefenestrator (Post 36153523)
How about the other Swedish twins? Or at least the one the Canucks have rights to?

I believe they will not participate, as Rodin did not last season. They start playing games that following week and need to practice with their team. Same goes with Tommernes and Andersson, imo.

Placebo Effect 08-24-2011 02:42 PM

So apparently Tim "The Saviour" Connolly is in Toronto skating with a bunch of his teammates so there are players starting to do their end of summer skating. Guessing Canucks will soon too but may be later because of the shorter offseason.

Mr. Canucklehead 08-24-2011 02:52 PM

Added Saab and Jensen to the rookie camp list. Saab seems like a scrapper, Jensen and Harrison seem like bodies to flesh out the Prospects Tournament roster. Anyone know what the eligibility requirements are for the tournament?

vanwest 08-24-2011 02:59 PM

For the rookies camp I'm really looking forward to seeing Rodin as he has had really good reports playing in the strong SEL. Schroeder, Jensen, Bill Sweatt, Kevin Connauton, Yann Sauve and Eddie Lack will also be interesting to see how they do. A pretty good group this time around.


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