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FromTheSide 09-03-2011 01:24 AM

A very telling stat from last season
 
Anyway, I'm watching the replay of the debbies vs rangers game on MSG Plus today (the last game of last season) and they mentioned this stat.

The Rangers were 28-0 going into the 3rd period with a lead and winning the game. Obviously they won that game and went on to be 29-0 to end the regular season with going into the 3rd with a lead.

I don't know about other people but that shows that the team knows how to hold a lead (most of the time anyway) and know when to push or to hold back. Completely the opposite of how the team played a year before where they blew multiple goal leads left and right.

Net Front Presence 09-03-2011 01:30 AM

And didn't we lose like 3 games in the playoffs when having a lead in the third? What a shame

NYRFAN218 09-03-2011 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by x GBISH x (Post 36407113)
And didn't we lose like 3 games in the playoffs when having a lead in the third? What a shame

Only one which was a really bad one being up 3-0. The big problem seemed to be scoring and actually getting the lead.

ohbaby 09-03-2011 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by x GBISH x (Post 36407113)
And didn't we lose like 3 games in the playoffs when having a lead in the third? What a shame

That was the killer. :shakehead

Screw You Rick Nash 09-03-2011 03:27 AM

I'm pretty sure we didn't end the regular season in that stat with no losses.

Edit- Forget it. I was wrong.

NHRangerfan 09-03-2011 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by FromTheSide (Post 36407055)
So...I didn't have a good prefix to choose for this, sue me :sarcasm:

Anyway, I'm watching the replay of the debbies vs rangers game on MSG Plus today (the last game of last season) and they mentioned this stat.

The Rangers were 28-0 going into the 3rd period with a lead and winning the game. Obviously they won that game and went on to be 29-0 to end the regular season with going into the 3rd with a lead.

I don't know about other people but that shows that the team knows how to hold a lead (most of the time anyway) and know when to push or to hold back. Completely the opposite of how the team played a year before where they blew multiple goal leads left and right.

Just wanted to put the stat above in perspective...Edmonton had the lowest % of wins leading after 2 @ .682.

For this team to be a top seed and go far in the playoffs they need to be leading after 2 periods in more than 35% of their games.

Silence Of The Plams 09-03-2011 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ohbaby (Post 36407843)
That was the killer. :shakehead

AND I had tickets to game 6. BENCH LEVEL!!!!

Rangers1135 09-03-2011 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by NYRFAN218 (Post 36407229)
Only one which was a really bad one being up 3-0. The big problem seemed to be scoring and actually getting the lead.


You had to remind me. :cry:

I was going to cry, after all the chants and stuff, we thought we had the game and we still blow the lead.

Richard Brads 09-03-2011 09:49 AM

i remember seeing that stat - and just from the way i saw the team play all season - and thought that the rangers style of play was perfect for the playoffs. tight checking, low scoring, good at holding leads. shows how much i friggin know

gotmonte 09-03-2011 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by x GBISH x (Post 36407113)
And didn't we lose like 3 games in the playoffs when having a lead in the third? What a shame

came in to post THIS.
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Regular season? Great (at holding the lead I mean)

Playoff season? Terrible TERRIBLE at holding the lead.


So I think it attributes more to the young players not having playoff experience than to anything else. I really believe that last years embarrassment (Only embarrassed because they couldnt hold the lead late, not because we lost to the Capitals) will benefit our young core group and will help them develop the nerves of steel and the knowledge of what to do in a late game in the playoffs to win.

We shall see though. Only time will tell.

vladmyir111 09-03-2011 10:23 AM

Well the 29-0 was impressive to be sure, but remember trailing after 2 the record was 8-24-4 which almost balanced out completely and shows what they were last seasons, slightly above mediocre.

GAGLine 09-03-2011 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by x GBISH x (Post 36407113)
And didn't we lose like 3 games in the playoffs when having a lead in the third? What a shame

Actually, it was only 2, games 1 and 4. And only in game 4 were we leading after 2 periods. We were 29-0 in those situations during the regular season (though how many of those were shootout wins, I don't know).

In game 1, we were tied going into the 3rd period, took the lead early, then allowed them to tie it late and lost in overtime.

Alphacat 09-03-2011 10:47 AM

The fact that we were able to shut down opponents like that going into the 3rd really says a lot about the teams character, fight, and determination.

Ave Maria 09-03-2011 11:28 AM

i went to game5, damn, whenever Vinny from the Jersey Shore goes to the game we lose, or atleast 2 of the however many games i went to, whenever he was there we lost :shakehead

NYRFAN218 09-03-2011 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Rangers4tehwin95 (Post 36411545)
i went to game5, damn, whenever Vinny from the Jersey Shore goes to the game we lose, or atleast 2 of the however many games i went to, whenever he was there we lost :shakehead

Game 5 was in Washington :laugh:

n8 09-03-2011 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by x GBISH x (Post 36407113)
And didn't we lose like 3 games in the playoffs when having a lead in the third? What a shame

Yes, and Torts was like "This is why we miss Ryan Callahan" Check out that stat in games after Callahan went down. It should be no surprise.

Machinehead 09-03-2011 01:31 PM

I believe IIRC that we were also the only team in the league to go undefeated in that category.

Swept In Seven 09-03-2011 01:47 PM

Chalk up the playoff loses to playoff inexperience. I think this season is going to be a lot better then last season in regards to consistency and offense

Ave Maria 09-03-2011 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by NYRFAN218 (Post 36411751)
Game 5 was in Washington :laugh:



oopsies, game 4 :booboo:

RangerFan10 09-03-2011 05:49 PM

I think our comebacks and our ability to hold a lead is very telling of the conditioning of this team, mostly thanks to Torts

FromTheSide 09-03-2011 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by vladmyir111 (Post 36410579)
Well the 29-0 was impressive to be sure, but remember trailing after 2 the record was 8-24-4 which almost balanced out completely and shows what they were last seasons, slightly above mediocre.

You make it sound like coming back 12 times after trailing going into the 3rd period is a bad thing...:laugh:

Net Front Presence 09-03-2011 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by vladmyir111 (Post 36410579)
Well the 29-0 was impressive to be sure, but remember trailing after 2 the record was 8-24-4 which almost balanced out completely and shows what they were last seasons, slightly above mediocre.

I'm pretty sure we were near the top of the league in that category also.

Edit: http://www.businessinsider.com/new-y...ods-win-2011-1

That article was written in January, so the record is a little off, but it says that we were far and away the best team while trailing after 2 periods.

RGY 09-03-2011 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by x GBISH x (Post 36407113)
And didn't we lose like 3 games in the playoffs when having a lead in the third? What a shame

No Captain Callahan in that playoffs.

FromTheSide 09-03-2011 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RGY (Post 36421605)
No Captain Callahan in that playoffs.

Not to mention a one-legged drury and a still injured gaborik.

Its amazing how we almost had the series tied going into game 5.

vladmyir111 09-03-2011 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by FromTheSide (Post 36420825)
You make it sound like coming back 12 times after trailing going into the 3rd period is a bad thing...:laugh:

No I was more pointing out 43% of our games played during the season ended with us down after 2 periods....that could definitely be worked on before we're an awesome team. Clearly playing from behind isn't as easy in the playoffs as it can be in the regular season.


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