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Blueshirts4me 09-22-2011 05:43 PM
All Things Viewing (Providers, HD, Online, Etc)
 
After years of Cablevision withholding their HD channels from their competitors -- the FCC ruled today that they must offer it in the next 30 days.

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The FCC today has ruled that a pair of high-definition regional sports channels operated by Cablevision’s Madison Square Garden network must be offered to Verizon’s FiOS and AT&T’s U-Verse video services. The move comes after a complaint was filed in July that said MSG refused to sell the formats — which Cablevision carries in its stable of offerings — in the greater New York region, thereby hindering competition. “By directing Cablevision and MSG to make their high-definition programming available within 30 days, the decision promises to give consumers in New York and New Jersey a choice to obtain the sports programming they want,” Verizon SVP and deputy general counsel Mike Glover said in a statement from Verizon announcing the ruling. Verizon also had to petition the FCC to allow it access to standard-definition versions of the channels in 2006.
http://www.deadline.com/2011/09/fcc-...s-hd-channels/

Jonathan. 09-22-2011 05:44 PM
FINALLY. This should have been resolved a few months back.

About ******* time.

MeltingPlastic 09-22-2011 05:49 PM
nice! now to get them to be able to show msg network in the philly area on fios... why did i move :shakehead

wolfgaze 09-22-2011 05:51 PM
I have to go change my pants...

Blueshirts4me, a big THANK YOU for sharing this information here and notifying everyone who was hopeless that FiOS would ever get the HD feed... Best news I've heard in a long time.... :handclap:

NYRKING30 09-22-2011 05:54 PM
Yesssssssssss!!!!!!!!!...finallyyyyyyyy

azrok22 09-22-2011 05:59 PM
Wouldn't count our chickens yet. Cablevision will certainly appeal, and a stay will likely be granted. Still, yet another step in the right direction.

EDIT: In fact, the article has been updated to indicate that Cablevision intends to appeal (although it was a given).

Double EDIT: Cablevision, not Comcast.

x CALLAHAN x 09-22-2011 05:59 PM
THANK YOU for the update. I was just giving some serious thought to switching to Time Warner,now i won't have to.

:handclap:

Jabroni1994 09-22-2011 06:07 PM
Thank you FCC.

Going to switch asap.

wolfgaze 09-22-2011 06:10 PM
As far as I understand, all FiOS subscribers have the same station numbers, so if anyone finds out what channel MSG HD will be, please post it in this thread.

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Originally Posted by azrok22 (Post 36968097)
Wouldn't count our chickens yet. Cablevision will certainly appeal, and a stay will likely be granted. Still, yet another step in the right direction.

EDIT: In fact, the article has been updated to indicate that Cablevision intends to appeal (although it was a given).

Double EDIT: Cablevision, not Comcast.
We'll already have been given access to the HD feeds before the appeals process could even play out, which could take a long time... I really can't imagine an appeals court reversing the ruling and mandating that our cable companies thereby remove the HD feeds after we've already been granted access to them by this recent ruling... I'm pretty comfortable we'll have it from this point forward with no interruptions.

DrSutton* 09-22-2011 06:11 PM
this is a good day. in 30 days im calling up crappy time warner and telling them to stick it where the sun don't shine - can't wait!

wolfgaze 09-22-2011 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by DrSutton (Post 36968487)
this is a good day. in 30 days im calling up crappy time warner and telling them to stick it where the sun don't shine - can't wait!
You will really enjoy FiOS... Make sure you get the new 500 GB multi-room DVR that was just released and also grab the Mobile DVR app for your smartphone (if you have one)

azrok22 09-22-2011 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by wolfgaze (Post 36968459)
As far as I understand, all FiOS subscribers have the same station numbers, so if anyone finds out what channel MSG HD will be, please post it in this thread.



We'll already have been given access to the HD feeds before the appeals process could even play out, which could take a long time... I really can't imagine an appeals court reversing the ruling and mandating that our cable companies thereby remove the HD feeds after we've already been granted access to them by this recent ruling... I'm pretty comfortable we'll have it from this point forward with no interruptions.
A stay doesn't go into place once an appeals court rules. It would go into place until the appeals court rules. I'd expect a stay of the FCC order to be issued before the end of next week (if not tomorrow).

wolfgaze 09-22-2011 06:17 PM
Cablevision crying about the ruling! :laugh:

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"Today's disappointing rulings do not appear to be based on the facts," said Cablevision in a statement. "The data clearly demonstrates that there has been no competitive harm to the nation's two largest phone companies as a result of not having two HD channels they already receive in SD. New York is the most competitive market in the country and this decision only hurts fair competition and consumers. Instead of competing on the merits in the marketplace, Verizon and AT&T are manipulating federal law to gain an unfair advantage and we have every intention of pursuing relief in the courts."
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/art...hp?rssid=20065

DrSutton* 09-22-2011 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by wolfgaze (Post 36968555)
You will really enjoy FiOS... Make sure you get the new 500 GB multi-room DVR that was just released and also grab the Mobile DVR app for your smartphone (if you have one)
I'm all over that - can't wait!

UAGoalieGuy 09-22-2011 06:29 PM
I'm switching to verizon on October 5th. Just bought a house in an area that has FIOS. Great news!

SRTtoZ 09-22-2011 06:35 PM
Finally...!!! I had to go all last year without MSG HD but it was wayyy worth it becauuse Fios is 1000x better than TW or Cablevision in every single way.

Now Fios is the definitive service.

OverTheCap 09-22-2011 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by wolfgaze (Post 36968715)
Cablevision crying about the ruling! :laugh:



:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/art...hp?rssid=20065

But depriving competitors access to an HD channel that you happen to own clearly doesn't stifle competition, right, Dolan? I can't believe Cablevision is arguing that there has been no competitive harm. Personally, I know tons of NY sports fans that have refused to switch to FIOS because they don't carry MSGHD, and for that reason alone. Tons of posters on these boards have complained about it as well.

N9Y4R 09-22-2011 06:43 PM
This is good news, but until I actually see it happen I think this will just continue to drag out. Step in the right direction. Right now I have Uverse for everything, but I still have my basic DTV service + the sports package that I suspend for non hockey months then activate just to watch the NYR in HD.

mrjimmyg89 09-22-2011 06:48 PM
Today, is a good day, for all New Yorkers and lovers of the Rangers and Knicks (also the Devils and Islanders, but who cares about them)

NYRangers16 09-22-2011 07:09 PM
Fios is worth it even without MSGHD - it's that good. With HD, it's ridiculously awesome. I'm excited!

The Dark Passenger 09-22-2011 07:19 PM
Now if they can just come to an agreement with Dish so I can see Rangers games on TV... le sigh.

Ih8theislanders 09-22-2011 07:30 PM
Hell ****ing yeah!

Sweet Gerald 09-22-2011 07:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NYRangers16 (Post 36970683)
Fios is worth it even without MSGHD - it's that good. With HD, it's ridiculously awesome. I'm excited!
It's at the very least head and shoulders above any other service I've had. Cablevision was awful in every conceivable way. Everything Fios did right, Cablevision is doing wrong.

HockeyBasedNYC 09-22-2011 07:32 PM
What next? 7 months of the appeal process which results in freezing the FCC ruling?

I have a feeling im gonna sign up for Fios only to have to switch back within the year.

Anyway, very good news as i have been waiting to switch my service for months. I just hope it sticks and the change is made for good. I will have a Verizon technician out here very soon.

Besides, Cablevision jacked my rate up twice since I bought my house.

EDIT- Then again, maybe not - Fios doesnt offer hsi in my area, ****

SRTtoZ 09-22-2011 08:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HockeyBasedNYC (Post 36971683)
What next? 7 months of the appeal process which results in freezing the FCC ruling?

I have a feeling im gonna sign up for Fios only to have to switch back within the year.

Anyway, very good news as i have been waiting to switch my service for months. I just hope it sticks and the change is made for good. I will have a Verizon technician out here very soon.

Besides, Cablevision jacked my rate up twice since I bought my house.

EDIT- Then again, maybe not - Fios doesnt offer hsi in my area, ****
Make sure you CALL them and ask...if you just checked the Fios website I wouldn't trust it because Ive had Fios for a year and it STILL says its not available in my area...yet im using it right now.


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