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theking72 09-24-2011 10:59 AM

Ray Chambers has agreed to pay $25 million to unload his 47 percent stake in the team
 
This is the NY Post, so if you deflate the story by 75% the truth is somewhere in there.

In a stunning development, New Jersey Devils co-owner Ray Chambers has agreed to pay $25 million to unload his 47 percent stake in the team, sources close to the situation told The Post.
Team lenders will get the cash as part of a deal to refinance the franchise’s debt, and principal owner Jeffrey Vanderbeek will get Chambers’ stake in the team, sources said.
The strange deal highlights both the shaky financial condition of the Newark-based team and the caustic relationship between the two owners.


Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/busines...#ixzz1Yt0QP6jN

ILikeItVeryMuch 09-24-2011 11:01 AM

Good news.

As much as the Post tries to make it not sound like it.

Wingman77 09-24-2011 11:01 AM

NY PLOLst

Nothing is "stunning" about this

It's what we've known all along

Next

Saugus 09-24-2011 11:02 AM

So, basically Vanderbeek is taking almost total control of the team's ownership group and the refinancing will happen? How is that bad news? Leave it to the Post to spin it their way.

Classic Devil 09-24-2011 11:03 AM

Great news. About time. Now I hope Vanderbeek starts looking for a new minority owner.

I was expecting Chambers to be paid, not to pay. So better than expected there also.

Tedenby21 09-24-2011 11:04 AM

This is good news. And by "pay" do you mean "sell" his stake for $25 mil?

kyle evs48 09-24-2011 11:04 AM

I'm gonna buy his stake.

TheUnseenHand 09-24-2011 11:04 AM

I'm not going to pretend to completely understand the business side of the Devils. I just hope this is good news and we can move forward from here (I.E. get Zach locked up).

Classic Devil 09-24-2011 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheUnseenHand (Post 37033051)
I'm not going to pretend to completely understand the business side of the Devils. I just hope this is good news and we can move forward from here (I.E. get Zach locked up).

This doesn't solve any money problems we might or might not have. What it does do, however, is give Vanderbeek full say over any moves the team makes, including green-lighting contract signings.

This is a good thing, because now he doesn't have to fight with other owners every time he wants the team to spend money.

This is a bad thing, because now he's the only really significant financial backer behind the team.

Overall, the good outweighs the bad, at least from a fan's perspective. Also, now Vanderbeek can start looking for another minority owner (if he so chooses) if the team does need financial help; if the team doesn't, then he probably keeps total control.

Tedenby21 09-24-2011 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Classic Devil (Post 37033177)
This doesn't solve any money problems we might or might not have. What it does do, however, is give Vanderbeek full say over any moves the team makes, including green-lighting contract signings.

This is a good thing, because now he doesn't have to fight with other owners every time he wants the team to spend money.

This is a bad thing, because now he's the only really significant financial backer behind the team.

Overall, the good outweighs the bad, at least from a fan's perspective. Also, now Vanderbeek can start looking for another minority owner (if he so chooses) if the team does need financial help; if the team doesn't, then he probably keeps total control.

Vanderbeek has always been good about spending money. He knows you have to spend money to make money.

Classic Devil 09-24-2011 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tedenby21 (Post 37033041)
This is good news. And by "pay" do you mean "sell" his stake for $25 mil?

Chambers is selling his stake in the team, I suppose, but he's not being paid for it. He's paying Vanderbeek to take the stake off his hands. Probably because his asset is almost entirely debt at the moment.

apice3 09-24-2011 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Classic Devil (Post 37033177)
Also, now Vanderbeek can start looking for another minority owner (if he so chooses) if the team does need financial help; if the team doesn't, then he probably keeps total control.

http://blogs-images.forbes.com/zacko.../jayz-nets.jpg

Getzo5 09-24-2011 11:12 AM

We`re doomed! :sarcasm:

Tedenby21 09-24-2011 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Classic Devil (Post 37033259)
Chambers is selling his stake in the team, I suppose, but he's not being paid for it. He's paying Vanderbeek to take the stake off his hands. Probably because his asset is almost entirely debt at the moment.

Interesting. My dad knows all about the financial stuff so I don't usually understand this stuff.

CerebralGenesis 09-24-2011 11:13 AM

Hopefully he can find a minority owner to help unload the bills onto.

Resign Zach, the cash excuse is no longer there

Toquitoes 09-24-2011 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apice3 (Post 37033313)

That guy has enough money to buy the team twice. Even if he did, he'd still be a minority owner.

Classic Devil 09-24-2011 11:16 AM

That Post article is really annoying, the more I look at it. It highlights the "shaky" financial position of the team - we're in debt and we know it, but that's because we just built a new arena and almost all the debt is in the arena, which will eventually pay for itself - and the "caustic" relationship between the two owners, which is, of course, being resolved here as the one owner is cashing out.

Saugus 09-24-2011 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Classic Devil (Post 37033431)
That Post article is really annoying, the more I look at it. It highlights the "shaky" financial position of the team - we're in debt and we know it, but that's because we just built a new arena and almost all the debt is in the arena, which will eventually pay for itself - and the "caustic" relationship between the two owners, which is, of course, being resolved here as the one owner is cashing out.

... it's the Post.

I'm not sure Vanderbeek has the resources to own the team entirely by himself. What I understand of the deal is that Chambers is paying the creditors off, so that they'll loan Vanderbeek more money to buy the rest of the team from Chambers. Then Vanderbeek will start looking for a new minority owner.

Captain Kulachuk 09-24-2011 11:23 AM

that makes more sense

TheUnseenHand 09-24-2011 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toquitoes (Post 37033417)
That guy has enough money to buy the team twice. Even if he did, he'd still be a minority owner.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g2...orlydesu-1.gif

Das Uber 09-24-2011 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apice3 (Post 37033313)


http://images.forbes.com/media/lists...-prokhorov.jpg

Classic Devil 09-24-2011 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saugus (Post 37033583)
... it's the Post.

I'm not sure Vanderbeek has the resources to own the team entirely by himself. What I understand of the deal is that Chambers is paying the creditors off, so that they'll loan Vanderbeek more money to buy the rest of the team from Chambers. Then Vanderbeek will start looking for a new minority owner.

That's my assumption as well.

PuckHogs29 09-24-2011 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toquitoes (Post 37033417)
That guy has enough money to buy the team twice. Even if he did, he'd still be a minority owner.

I laughed inappropriately hard at that.

kyle evs48 09-24-2011 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toquitoes (Post 37033417)
That guy has enough money to buy the team twice. Even if he did, he'd still be a minority owner.

:laugh:

Das Uber 09-24-2011 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saugus (Post 37033583)
... it's the Post.

I'm not sure Vanderbeek has the resources to own the team entirely by himself. What I understand of the deal is that Chambers is paying the creditors off, so that they'll loan Vanderbeek more money to buy the rest of the team from Chambers. Then Vanderbeek will start looking for a new minority owner.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Classic Devil (Post 37033643)
That's my assumption as well.

Which is why we need build a pipeline to pump some of that Russian oil money into Newark. It's in abundant supply.


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