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Foxlockbox 09-29-2011 12:13 PM

MIN claims Nick Johnson from PIT on waivers.
 
http://twitter.com/#!/TSNBobMcKenzie...44164466323456

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=17765

Edit: Looks like a pretty solid AHL producer. I just don't see space for him on our roster, can we send him to AHL?

squidz* 09-29-2011 12:15 PM

Who?

tyratoku 09-29-2011 12:16 PM

Wikipedia has him as a RW with 2+3 for 5 points in 10 NHL games and 115 points in 169 AHL games.

Shall I make a thread on the PIT board asking for opinions on him?

Jarick 09-29-2011 12:16 PM

Seems like a depth move...not sure if NHL or AHL though. Decent AHL forward, more of a defensive NHL'er.

The Hockey News:

Age: 25
Ht: 6-1 Wt: 202
Shoots: R

ASSETS: Has projectable size, a great work ethic and some scoring upside. Also understands the defensive side of hockey.
FLAWS: Must gain more strength in order to better handle big NHL defensemen. Also needs to gain greater consistency in his overall game.
CAREER POTENTIAL: Complementary depth winger.

mnwildgophers 09-29-2011 12:19 PM

Maybe insurance because we might not want to keep Bulmer up here with Staubitz suspended?

squidz* 09-29-2011 12:20 PM

Capgeek has him on the last year of a 2-way contract for $550,000 AAV.

Looks like he has 5 points in 10 career NHL games.

Foxlockbox 09-29-2011 12:22 PM

He was 1+2 in 4 games last season with Pens.

squidz* 09-29-2011 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mnwildgophers (Post 37240629)
Maybe insurance because we might not want to keep Bulmer up here with Staubitz suspended?

More likely it's insurance for Wellman. We don't have any top 6 forward depth. Right now Wellman is first in line followed by...Foucault maybe? Ortmeyer, DiSalvatore, and Peters?

tomgilbertfan 09-29-2011 12:25 PM

Maybe Almond's injury is looking like it will be long term?

Northland Wild Man 09-29-2011 12:26 PM

Never heard of him.

Sideline 09-29-2011 12:27 PM

He's a guy that can play NHL minutes and not look bad. His skating is less than you would hope for from a 3rd/4th liner, but he's all around okay. I wouldn't be surprised if he becomes a serviceable NHLer, nor would I be surprised if he becomes a career AHL hired gun.

squidz* 09-29-2011 12:27 PM

On the contract cap front, this puts us up to 48 + 4 SR of our 50 contract cap. The Brodin and Larsson contracts will slide for sure (and therefore not count against the cap is my understanding). The other two slide risks are Bulmer and Jobke. With Jobke in Regina, he won't count either. Depending upon whether Bulmer stays with the team or not, we only have space for 1 or 2 more contracts.

Captain Hook 09-29-2011 12:31 PM

Pens fan here.

Johnson is worth taking a flier on. He's got a thick, strong, NHL body to go with a little skill. He has a solid all around game, but isn't great at any one thing. He makes a lot of little plays winning battles and a few defensive plays. Like I said, just a solid all around depth player.

Tasty Biscuits 09-29-2011 12:36 PM

If he gets sent down PIT will just claim him back.

Agree with Sideline about the skating, it's nothing special, but it's adequate enough. He actually has above-average hands which I wish he would've used more during his NHL stints, but oh well. Decent along the boards. Does his best work down low around the net though where he's willing to use his hands more.

He had good chemistry anytime he played with Jordan Staal, but he never did one thing well enough to help him stick and make a regular expendable. Hope he does well for you guys. If not, I'm sure PIT will take him back.

nickschultzfan 09-29-2011 12:36 PM

If we picked him up off waivers, I assume that means we think he's NHL ready. This pick-up actually makes sense.

1. Bulmer is probably going back to junior.
2. Powe's upside is very limited. This kid may be more offensively productive.
3. Staubitz is suspended and he's not an every-game player anyways.
4. Gillies is still a question-mark.
5. Somebody has to sit in the press box if Powe, Gillies, and Staubitz play.
6. All the other AHLers were sent to Houston, except the injuried Almond and Kassian, and the non-grinder Wellman.

Big McLargehuge 09-29-2011 12:44 PM

He's a solid player, works his butt off. He doesn't really excel at anything, but his effort and his head work well to make him play above his natural talents. He's a solid 12th/13th forward who was just a casualty of depth in Pittsburgh. He only got chances when injuries happened, and when he would have had his best chance last year he got concussed in a fight and was out for the rest of the year.

His concussion issues went away late in the Summer and he was able to fully participate in camp, that shouldn't be an issue.

squidz* 09-29-2011 12:48 PM

Question for the PIT fans:

I'm getting the impression he's a 2nd/3rd line tweener. Should play third line but can cover some top-6 duty for a while when there's an injury. Is that accurate? Is he more of a skill guy or a grinder? Thanks,

Jarick 09-29-2011 12:51 PM

Sounds more like he's a 4th liner, not a 2nd/3rd.

wej20 09-29-2011 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarick (Post 37241893)
Sounds more like he's a 4th liner, not a 2nd/3rd.

don't think he has enough crash and bang to be a 4th liner, I'd start him on the 3rd line and hope he can grow into that role.

gdsmack267 09-29-2011 12:57 PM

Definitely a solid winger to have, pens just have too many players on one way contracts expecially with Jeffrey and Crosby coming back soon. Should be a solid 3/4 line right winger for you guys. If there was any a year he would crack into the NHL this would probably be the year.

Tasty Biscuits 09-29-2011 01:02 PM

He's got tweener 2nd/3rd line abilities, but plays more of a 3rd/4th line game if that makes sense, not in that he's phyisical, but that he doesn't fully utilize his toolbox.

I know these are AHL, but here's a couple examples of what I'm talking about when I say he has underrated hands.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu-UxtEBUww

This one especially shows how he can be a threat down low. We saw glimpses of this in PIT, but like I said for whatever reason he was a bit more passive in taking chances -- seemed like maybe he didn't want to risk making a bad impression at the expense of trying to make a good one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSEnWx6OVzg

(emedding wasn't working for me for some reason, sorry).

bozak911 09-29-2011 01:03 PM

Probably just an insurance pick up based on GM CF and HC MY...

He wouldn't fit into our top six. He is a right winger, so he's not going on the third line (that's Clutterbuck's spot).

Maybe our bottom six is getting a shake up?

Gillies - Brodziak - Clutterbuck
Nystrom - Powe - Johnson/Staubitz

?

Captain Hook 09-29-2011 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squidz (Post 37241835)
Question for the PIT fans:

I'm getting the impression he's a 2nd/3rd line tweener. Should play third line but can cover some top-6 duty for a while when there's an injury. Is that accurate? Is he more of a skill guy or a grinder? Thanks,

You hit the nail on the head. He's definitely a 2nd/3rd line tweener and he's more of a skill guy than a grinder. I mean, he's strong and he'll win some board battles and make a few plays defensively, but he's not a big checker, fighter or agitator. I really never thought gritty or grinder with him. I think about a thick/strong player with decent hands and mediocre speed. Could be a good depth guy.

Big McLargehuge 09-29-2011 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squidz (Post 37241835)
Question for the PIT fans:

I'm getting the impression he's a 2nd/3rd line tweener. Should play third line but can cover some top-6 duty for a while when there's an injury. Is that accurate? Is he more of a skill guy or a grinder? Thanks,

He doesn't have the skill for a 2nd line job or the grit for a typical 4th line job. He's a pretty cut-and-dry third liner in my opinion, a Jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none type.


Grit isn't the most important thing for a fourth line, we're quite happy to continue to have Craig Adams playing there as a defensive/PK specialist, so he wouldn't be too out of place there...he's good along the boards and the like, but he's not going to be crashing any bodies with regularity.

Really you can insert him just about anywhere and he'd be fine, but he's best suited for a simple depth role. He's not the kind of guy I'd want in the line-up 82 games a year, but you're very happy to have him on the roster if he's playing ~60.

Dr Jan Itor 09-29-2011 01:19 PM

Probably just somebody that Yeo and Fletch are familiar with from their Pittsburgh days. Can't hurt to take a flyer on the guy.


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