Shanny is a 3rd Line Player
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10-17-2007, 04:52 AM
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It was in response to the original comment regarding how the two lines differ in getting the puck into the zone. I understand that I've knocked you around in two consecutive GDT threads, but at the very least read what I'm saying - give yourself a shot.
Although I neglect to mention why I think Shanny and Gomez are a sound fit within the offensive zone, I do go on to address why I believe Drury and Jagr are a good fit together. However, since you're wondering...I'll tell you:
Gomez is very effective with his puck cycling; if you add Avery to the equation down-low you get a quick, strong tandem that is not easily knocked off the puck. They're both relentless and Avery draws enough attention that you can leave Shanahan as the high man looking to get open and set up for a shot (what he does best). This also has secondary benefits in the form of less wear and tear on the old man, himself. If he's not hustling and duking it out in the trenches, he's going to preserve himself a little better.
For me, it boils down to patience: nothing good happens overnight. We can't expect all of these guys to gel instantly, but the matchups I propose seem to suit each other well.
Ah, I still feel alittle wozzy after that, like Dubinsky kind of...
(While I was right in principle atleast, the C is always supposed to cover behind the D, if the D steps up, especially around the offensive blueline, in other words Drury over commited offensivly. We had just let in 2 goals in the span of less then 30 sec or something, we had no real controll over the puck, he ran around like a chicken without a head on that play. Then we can argue wheter the term "it was his fault" is a good fit or not... Malik failed to get it deep. Hossa didn't take away the boards really. Jagr could have covered for Drury. Lundqvist could have saved it. The only one completly left without any blame have to be Roz who took away the passing lane and got the Ott player to shoot from some range atleast.)
I think we dissagree on Avery though. He is very good down low, at winning back the puck. He creates allot of turnovers all over the ice. But I don't think he is all that strong with the puck down low. Its defenitly possible that you are right and that they would improve over what we saw earlier in the season, and become a decent line. But, on a line with Gomez I don't think you can have too much puckcontroll.
Another issue with Avery is that at stretches, for maybe 3 shifts in a row here and there, he gets into a controversy instead of helping out Gomez. He gets into the face of the goalie, D's are chasing him all over the ice and stuff like that. He is far from 100% focused on the game. And thats what really makes him valueble, but when he does that he is leaving Gomez without any pucksupport.
I think a perfect fit with Gomez would be a Dustin Penner. Now, Penner can protect the puck down low, while he needs someone to get it down low for him. If you got that, you can afford a sniper on the other wing like Shanny; and still have a great line.
Atleast in the long run, a Penner type is what we should be aiming for to play with Gomez. He needs someone who constantly can get the puck down low for him. In Anaheim he got that from their blue line while with Perry and Getlaf, or from Andy McDonald while he played with him. When he doesn't got that, like in Edm now, he won't create much. We ought to be able to find someone like him pretty cheap.
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