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05-10-2004, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Takeo21
Yes you would.

Wow. What an intellectually informed response.

Vlad happens to disagree with you about the relative values of the players. Deal with it.

Here is Savard's stats:

1993-94 Oshawa Generals OHL 61 18 39 57 24 5 4 3 7 8
1994-95 Oshawa Generals OHL 66 43 96 139 78 7 5 6 11 8
1995-96 Oshawa Generals OHL 47 28 59 87 77 5 4 5 9 6
1996-97 Oshawa Generals OHL 64 43 87 130 94 18 13 24 37 20
1997-98 Hartford Wolf Pack AHL 58 21 53 74 66 15 8 19 27 24
1997-98 New-York Rangers NHL 28 1 5 6 4 -- -- -- -- --
1998-99 New-York Rangers NHL 70 9 36 45 38 -- -- -- -- --
1998-99 Hartford Wolf Pack AHL 9 3 10 13 16 7 1 12 13 16
1999-00 Calgary Flames NHL 78 22 31 53 56 -- -- -- -- --
2000-01 Calgary Flames NHL 77 23 42 65 46 -- -- -- -- --
2001-02 Calgary Flames NHL 56 14 19 33 48 -- -- -- -- --
2002-03 Calgary Flames NHL 10 1 2 3 8 -- -- -- -- --
2002-03 Atlanta Thrashers NHL 57 16 31 47 77 -- -- -- -- --
2003-04 Atlanta Thrashers NHL 45 19 33 52 85


Briere's:

1994-95 Drummondville Voltigeurs QMJHL 72 51 72 123 54 4 2 3 5 2
1995-96 Drummondville Voltigeurs QMJHL 67 67 96 163 84
1996-97 Drummondville Voltigeurs QMJHL 59 52 78 130 86
1997-98 Springfield Falcons AHL 68 36 56 92 42 4 1 2 3 4
1997-98 Phoenix Coyotes NHL 5 1 0 1 2 -- -- -- -- --
1998-99 Phoenix Coyotes NHL 64 8 14 22 30 -- -- -- -- --
1998-99 Springfield Falcons AHL 13 2 6 8 20 3 0 1 1 2
1998-99 Las-Vegas Thunder IHL 1 1 1 2 0 -- -- -- -- --
1999-00 Springfield Falcons AHL 58 29 42 71 56 -- -- -- -- --
1999-00 Phoenix Coyotes NHL 13 1 1 2 0 1 0 0 0 0
2000-01 Springfield Falcons AHL 30 21 25 46 30 -- -- -- -- --
2000-01 Phoenix Coyotes NHL 30 11 4 15 12 -- -- -- -- --
2001-02 Phoenix Coyotes NHL 78 32 28 60 52 5 2 1 3 2
2002-03 Phoenix Coyotes NHL 68 17 29 46 50 -- -- -- -- --
2002-03 Buffalo Sabres NHL 14 7 5 12 12 -- -- -- -- --
2003-04 Buffalo Sabres NHL 82 28 37 65 70


The upshot is that Savard had a far superior PPG to Briere last season, and has proven slightly more than Briere over the long term. And, he is a hell of a lot tought and more fiesty than Briere.

I would take Briere over Savard personally. But, Vlad's perspective has reasonable statistical support and his view is (as always) highly informed and balanced.

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