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06-11-2008, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by voxel View Post
Umberger is a year away from UFA and has scored 20 goals once in his career... even 4th line scrubs Glencross + Brodziak both scored more goals than Umberger in the regular season this year. There are dozens of players like Umberger than can be had for 2nd/3rd round picks.

Torres is approximate a 20G 20A - 40pt player which is Umberger's typical rate except this year. I don't see his upside. The other difference is that Torres scores 99% of his points at ES because he doesn't play on the PP whereas Umberger scores maybe 70% at ES. I've always said Torres is a lesser Hartnell.

Is he worth a top-4 D-men? Maybe a defensive D-men, but not an two-way top-4 D-man.
how many years as torres been in the league compared to umbergers 3? it is unrealistic to think rj can possibly improve.

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