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08-12-2008, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by bilros View Post
During the years they were both in Colorado, Forsberg had a better ppg than Sakic, both during regular season and during playoffs.
For a guy who keep saying "Stats are irrelevant" whenever good stats in Sakic's case comes up, you sure like bringing up stats like PPG.

My answer.
So? His point per game is just barely a tiny fraction better over the long haul, and 5 out of 9 years Sakic bested him. Forsberg's style of play directly led to his injuries. If getting a higher PPG several years means by playing a style that will severely cripple your ability to persevere...... Ill take the safer style that wields similar PPG, but ends up helping the team more by staying healthy. You can't help the team from the pressbox

Sakic was also the most important forward both years Colorado won the cup. One Conn Smythe and one Conn Smythe Runner up to 0.

These graphs also do not include the fact that 4 of Sakic's best years were before Forsberg ever showed up.

Regular season
PlayerSeasonGamesPointsPoints Per game
Joe Sakic 1994-95 47 62 1.32
Peter Forsberg 1994-95 47 40 1.06
Joe Sakic 1995-96 82 120 1.46
Peter Forsberg 1995-96 82 116 1.41
Joe Sakic 1996-97 65 74 1.14
Peter Forsberg 1996-97 65 86 1.32
Joe Sakic 1997-98 64 63 0.98
Peter Forsberg 1997-98 72 91 1.26
Joe Sakic 1998-99 73 96 1.32
Peter Forsberg 1998-99 78 97 1.24
Joe Sakic 1999-00 60 81 1.35
Peter Forsberg 1999-00 49 51 1.04
Joe Sakic 2000-01 82 118 1.44
Peter Forsberg 2000-01 73 89 1.22
Joe Sakic 2001-02 82 79 0.96
Peter Forsberg 2001-02 0 0 0
Joe Sakic 2002-03 58 58 1.00
Peter Forsberg 2002-03 75 106 1.41
Joe Sakic 2003-04 81 87 1.07
Peter Forsberg 2003-04 39 55 1.41


Playoffs
PlayerSeasonGamesPointsPoints Per game
Joe Sakic 1994-95 6 5 0.83
Peter Forsberg 1994-95 6 6 1.00
Joe Sakic 1995-96 22 34 1.55
Peter Forsberg 1995-96 22 21 0.95
Joe Sakic 1996-97 17 25 1.47
Peter Forsberg 1996-97 14 17 1.21
Joe Sakic 1997-98 6 5 0.83
Peter Forsberg 1997-98 7 11 1.57
Joe Sakic 1998-99 19 19 1.00
Peter Forsberg 1998-99 19 24 1.26
Joe Sakic 1999-00 15 9 0.53
Peter Forsberg 1999-00 16 15 0.94
Joe Sakic 2000-01 21 26 1.24
Peter Forsberg 2000-01 11 14 1.27
Joe Sakic 2001-02 21 19 0.90
Peter Forsberg 2001-02 20 27 1.35
Joe Sakic 2002-03 7 9 1.29
Peter Forsberg 2002-03 7 8 1.14
Joe Sakic 2003-04 11 12 1.09
Peter Forsberg 2003-04 11 11 1.00
Joe Sakic 2007-08 10 10 1.00
Peter Forsberg 2007-08 7 5 0.71

Colorado career stats:
Regular season:
Sakic 1.21
Forsberg 1.27

Playoffs:
Sakic 1.10
Forsberg 1.13

The difference of 0.03-0.06 of a PPG is about 2-4 points in a full season, if that. And since Forsberg can't stay healthy enough to implement it over a full season because the method he uses cripples his ability to stay healthy, it really becomes irrelevant.


AGAIN, I voted Forsberg's peak by a small margin. But these graphs show that Sakic was not more than a small margin behind. You love bashing any and all Canadian players and demeaning them, trying to say he is not even comparable to your precious Swedes, when in fact, the facts are against you.


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