What should be the last retired number?
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09-15-2008, 12:07 PM
Join Date: Feb 2006
I know there will be no more number retired for a long time but I'll play the game.
#03 – Émile « Butch » Bouchard
What's the fuzz around him. Only 1 time he was considered the best at his position. Never been considered for the most valuable player (i.e. finishing top 5 in Hart voting). Good captain. 3 all star teams. Being hold doesn't ensure you a place in the rafters. Would be by far the weakest player retired. NO
#05 – Guy Lapointe
Lapointe is underestimated. He was the offensive dynamo of the big three. However he wasn't better that Savard and Robinson. Can't say he really been a more important d-man to this franshise then Bouchard. NO
#06 – Hector « Toe » Blake
Great player. 1 Hart trophy. 3 times first all star, 2 times 2nd. Led the league in points 1 time. Won 2 cup as captain. Can make a good case for the player of the playoffs in the 1944 cup victory. Probably a greatest player than Dickie Moore. Had he been alive he would have been retired. A deserving player but I'd also like to see coaches like Irvin, Blake and Bowman honoured in some way for the 100th anniversary.
#16 – Elmer Lach
1 Hart trophy. A dominant passer. Led the league in points 2 times, is 1st all star team (3 times), 2nd all star team (2 times). He was the most important player in the 1946 Stanley Cup victory and would probably have won the Conn Smythe had it exist. In the Moore-Blake category. More deserving than Lapointe and Bouchard. Even Detroit would have retired his #16. Had he been french, the Ron Fournier campaign would be around him.
#22 – Steve Shutt
What?. Shutt made a career leeching off Lafleur, Lemaire and others. Only 3 times PPG in a big scoring era. Good scorer but overall he's a deserving but weak HOF induction. A Bernie Nicholls type of player. Not to be mention with the greats.
#25 – Jacques Lemaire
One of the cornerstone of the 70's Canadiens, I don't think Lemaire has the personal accomplishments than warrant a number to be raised. Never led the league in anything, hardly been a top 10 player and never was he the best at his position. Great leader but not enough ''star power'' or greatnest to be honoured.
#? – Georges Vézina
A Hab from 1910 to 1926. The greatest goalie in the NHA and the 2nd best in the early days of the NHL (behind Clint Benedict). Would probably have won 2 ''Vezinas'', including the 1st one in history. Vezina had the bad luck to die in a time when most teams didn't sewn numbers on their players. Mr. Vezina has therefore no # to retire. Having a trophy to his name is a heck of an honour, and a deserving one.
I'll add one name deserving of discussion.
#1 – Bill Durnan
The guy was a 6 times a 1st team all star in a 7 years career (Vezinas back then didn't meant much as they were a statistical award so I go with all star teams). He ended his career as easily the greatest goaltender of all-time. Won the cup in 1944 and 1946. Led 4 times the NHL in wins and receive significant Hart consideration (3rd in 46, 2nd in 49). Durnan has a very Drydenesque career and is IMO the greatest overlook in the Bell Centre rafters. A big YES for him.
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