Rivet got us Gorges and a 1st...
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10-09-2008, 05:15 PM
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When taking all factors into consideration, I wouldn't trade Gorges for Kubina straight up.
I like Kubina. I think he's gotten a bit of a dog reputation that's not entirely fair. We see that with high-priced UFAs who struggle with new teams, especially teams that swirl the bowl after throwing a wad of money at UFAs. They get flushed from serious consideration even though they sometimes still have good hockey in them.
Aucoin is an example that comes to mind. With Chicago, he was Augroin, a pure waste of cap space. With Calgary last year, he refound his form, even though he's at that age where you would expect a guy to start declining irretrievably.
I bring up the Aucoin example because he was a guy that I thought would have been a good, discount acquisition, contrary to the prevailing opinion on these boards that he was completely finished, a liability who was destined for buyout. I'm not bragging -- I get these sorts of things wrong frequently. I use the example because this thread, as brief as it is, reminds me of those Aucoin threads.
As for the proposal, there's no way I'd trade a 1st rounder for Kubina. If Kubina were available, I'd be interested only if he came at a bargain in terms of trade assets. He represents a risk, a pricey one even, but he also represents some insurance and quality depth. He's no Niinimaa. He is still an all-situation RH defenceman, a player with very good tools who not that long ago was relied upon by a SC winning team to shutdown the other team's best players.
Anyway, easy to talk. I don't know what I would offer. At the low end, a prospect like D'Agostini along with some salary in the form of Dandenault. It would be worth considering, IMO, even if it had to be sweetened a little. We can't take for granted that Komisarek will re-sign, that O'Byrne will actually develop into a top 4, or that Carle or Weber or Valentenko will be ready for full-time duty next year.
If Kubina ended up with the Habs and all those things happen anyway, then that would be a great problem to have, and one that I don't think would be too hard to fix. It's nearly always easier to trade away a quality asset than it is to acquire one, which is why you sniff around a Kubina if he's available for cheap, even with his contract.
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