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10-22-2008, 01:56 PM
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SpezNc
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Originally Posted by Erika Kostitsyn View Post
To answer what facts ?! That riskier players like Travis Zajac, Andrej Meszaros, Wojtek Wolski, David Krejci, Dustin Boyd, Mike Green, Dave Bolland, David Booth, Brandon Dubinsky, Jeff Shultz, Lauri Korpikoski, Carl Soderberg, etc. have turn out to be better at this point than Kyle Chipchura, the captain of Team Canada U-20, Surefire NHLer and future defensive specialist ?!

Thank you for illustrating so well why theses so called "Safe prospect" with limited potential shouldn't be drafted in the first round !! Kyle Chipchura will soon be part of this amazing list.

Sorry, but this pick is as worst as picks like Brent Bilodeau, Jason Ward, Turner Stevenson and so on !! It's not because it's Trevor Timmins that he can't be wrong with his draft choices.

1) First of all, THERE ARE NO surefire prospect in this world. Every player has a busting percentage, some just has a higher rate than others. That's why IMO, you draft the best player available with the main criteria: TALENT and OFFENSIVE SKILLS !!

2) The players that you listed were considered somehow "Safe" to make the NHL, which turns out absolutely false at this moment. Thoses guys were projected to be future 3rd/4th liners or bottom pairing defensemen at best. My point is, why taking thoses kind of players when you can have bigger catches with players who has higher potential ?! Thoses so called "Safe" prospect with limited potential are good in the 3rd round and laters, but in the first round ?!?! PLease... they become Jason Ward, A.J Thelen and Kyle Chipchura of this world...

The guy that was projected as a 3rd liner might turn out only as a 4th liner or Career AHLer. On the other hand, the guy that was projected to be a top 6 forward might turn out to be a 3rd or 4th liner. His potential is better, there's more chance that he will have more impact on his future team and and so on... There's always chances that he can become a good 2-way player. You can't teach Offensive skills, but you can teach defensive skills. , just ask Sergei Kostitsyn

3) What's the point of drafting theses so called "safe" prospect with limited potential, only to see them bust ?!?! You don't win much if they pans out, but YOU LOSE A 1ST ROUND PICK if they Bust !! I'd feel better if the player I took bust because he was riskier due to his higher ceiling than a guy with small potential that bust the same...

Also, it's not because other teams drafted poorly that it's okay for us to do the same. This is what seperates good teams from bad.

Like I said before and I will repeat it again will pleasure, guys like Kyle Chipchura are raining in this world and you guys can't tell me the opposite right now.

4) The future of this team and of the league will be based on speedy players with offensive skills. The traditional slow defensive specialist is becoming old fashion. I want to see 3 centers that can skate and have decent offensive skills centering my my first 3 lines. Sorry, but Kyle Chipchura doesn't fill this bill. He will never be anything more than a 4th liner/border line NHLer. Plus he sucks at face-off so that's even worse for a guy of his style !!

Ohhh and the "He captained team Canada U-20 and has great leadership" thing is becoming old. Seriously, WHO CARES ?!


If Kyle Chipcura would be a property of another team, nobody would even notice this dude, let alone defend him like if you guys were his bodyguard.



Finally to answer Montreal, Tomas Plekanec is an offensive player. Him taking more time to develop is fine with me, because he was kind of a project. Where did I say that Plekanec sucked ?! He's one of my favorite Habs player. But a so called "Safe prospect" like Kyle Chipchura still being in the AHL after 4 years, is just pathetic.


Chipchura still being in the AHL after 4 years?

He was drafted in 2004, he played 04-05 and 05-06 in the WHL

Played 06-07 in the AHL
Played 07-08 half AHL and half NHL
Has played 08-09 half AHL half NHL

Where are you taking, STILL BEING in THE AHL AFTER 4 years..

If you saying, still being in the ahl after 4 years from his draft year, I just say it's pretty common... not pathetic..

And Chipchura was drafted for his potential... His potential was to be a premier Third Line Center. I'm not saying he will...

But a premier defensive forward is as important to a hockey club as a premier 1st line center...

Of course, a premier 1st line center is more spectacular but we need every kind of player in a team if we want to succeed...

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