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11-07-2008, 10:21 PM
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Gatineau, câlisse
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I see him quite often actually because he opened his restaurant next to my place. I don't know about your shape, but he ain't no specimen. No superhero here.
The fact that he would still produce is irrelevant. I never tried to deny other wise. I said he wouldn't be able to keep up, but if he adapted to today's regiment, then I don't see why he wouldn't.
As good as Ovechkin?..maybe, maybe not, it's useless to even talk about this as we'll never know.
But what if we do it the other way around, what if the Ovechkin of today went back in the old days, how many pts do you think he'd net??
My point was to compare a player that nets 25G to Guy who scored 50G is dumb. Trying to mix players from different eras just doesn't work.
Why not compare everybody to Gretzky's 92G 200Pts+ while we're at it.
Well, what do you think?..
Bourque scored 90pts+ four times in his career.. When's the last time you saw a Dman do that?..
Gretzky had 200pts+..Messier was one of the best all times.
Gretzky would have never been able to put up such numbers in today's game. His puny physique, the instigator rule out, so nobody to protect him as much as he was back in the days.
Not only has genetics changed, athletes have to be extremely careful about their health, but the rules have changed. Note that all the players you've mentioned have all stopped playing before the lockout. It's at that time that the game really changed a lot. The red line no longer exists, the game is faster, the guys are bigger and stronger. Goalies are excellent, they're not a rare commodity in the league anymore. Pretty much every team has a solid #1 Goalie.
They prone offense with all the penalties being called.
It's just not the same, so comparing eras just don't work.
The guy is getting close to 60. I'm not even close to that and he looks much better than me. Yes, he's physically fit. Would probably twirl around you on the ice even today, close to 60. I saw the guy play in Gatineau last year and he still got wheels for a near 60-ish.
I repeat: the guy was a physical phenom in the 70's. Even when smoking.
And, for your info: he wasn't only smoking between periods. He was smoking on the bench. Go ask him, he will tell you. The guy was a machine. Bowman could care less, because he knew that Guy was there when counted on.
So, for me, he can say whatever he wants. The Rocket wasn't exactly mister Rectitude either. But he's still the Rocket. Guy is the man, the most loved Habs' hockey player after Béliveau (still alive, I mean).
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