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11-28-2008, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Whitesnake View Post
Darz...it wouldn't be the first time that a coach doesn't have any confidence in a player to then see the said player going elsewhere and be a better player.
Agreed. But it isn't like Streit didn't have any chances in Montreal. He had plenty of ice time as a defenceman during his tenure as a hab, and didn't show the ability to be a top four dman. Granted, I never thought he was horrible as a dman, but.....

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Is 4 millions too much? Of course it is. I'M personnally talking about the 2/2.5 he was asking for around Christmas. When Gainey gave Dandenault his 1.7, did he thought that he was giving that to a 4th line forward? How about giving a 2/2.5 to a guy like Streit instead that with a little more confidence, would have shown that he's more than capable to be a #4 d-man/PP specialist.
1. Yes, in hindsight at Christmas for $2M-$2.5M a year would of been a good deal, but Gainey didn't have that hindsight at his disposal at the time.

2. When Dandenault was signed, the habs didn't have a deep pool of talent, like they do now. Getting a servicable player with experience who could play defence or forward looked like a good idea. If Dandenault was a UFA this past offseason, I doubt Gainey would have offered him anywhere near that kinda money. Also cap space wasn't going to be an issue for the four years Dandenault was signed for.

3. If Streit was 23-24 years old, it would of made alot of sense to sign him thinking with a bit of confidence he could be a #4 guy, but at his age, alot of players don't improve. They plateau or even start on the down swing.



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Again, people are overblowing how bad a d-man he was when he actually wasn't that bad. Carbo didn't like him.....doesn't mean that a coach is always right 'cause if they were, they weren't be fired....
No, I will agree, Streit wasn't horrible as a dman, but giving a guy $4M a year for the third pairing seems a little high. If at any point last year there was a suggestion that the team keep Streit as a dman and move O'Byrne, the fans would have rioted (well the fans here). It's funny how hindsight makes all things so much easier.



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And honestly this whole "He would not have been doing this here" can never be proved. If some people cannot prove that he would be as succesful, how can we prove that he wouldn't be? How do we know that he would not have steal that #4, how do we know that Grabs would not have been able to take Pleks job in the 2nd line? We will never know either way.
I will give you the point about Streit might of, could of, if we kept him, but Grabovski??? No way. A whining, me first type player, who leaves a team to talk to his agent. Winning teams don't usually have these type of players. These type flourish on crappy teams, and are gotten rid of when a team starts climbing the ladder. I hope Burke sign him to a 5 year extension as his first move as GM.

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At the end of the day if you want to blame anybody, blame Crabo...Gainey was not going to give a big contract to a guy his own coach would not use on defense. Getting Tanguay, Streit was out of room up front also.

I think saying that the PP suddenly sucks because Streit is gone is oversimplification.
The Habs have lacked finish for weeks, not only on PP but 5 on 5.
I don't blame Carbo. He didn't do anything wrong. If Streit has had a good 20 game stretch to start this year, great for him, but he didn't show that during his tenure in Montreal. I don't recall one outcry on these boards last year that Carbo should be playing Streit as a top four defenceman.

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