The Kovalev bashing has got to stop
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01-06-2009, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by
How are Plekanec and Latendresse under-achievers this year if Ryder wasn't last year? I stopped reading there.
Love Kovalev though, you'll never hear me bash him without reason. Some good posts in here. He is what he is, but he only wants this team to win.
Sorry... I should've clarified this because after re-reading it you're right, it is misleading. What I meant to say was, Ryder did under-achieve last year of course... but there were also other players on the team that were under-achieving at the time as well but you never heard about them. Ryder was the whipping boy. Just like Kovalev is this year.
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i just went down to the philly series threads, and it seems that I'm not alone thinking that even with his points in the playoffs, he still played like crap and started to play like the selfish mongrel he really is
And for the 18 assists "argument", with an average TOI of Kovalev that is around 25 minutes a night, it's pretty normal for a player to goble the second assists and to put up some points. And seriously, I haven't seen a lot of powerplays featuring Kovalev doing other thing that his crappy tentatives to the top corner right post. This or trying to deke the whole stupid team and ruining the powerplay.
And the facts are, and are not brought by me: when Kovalev plays bad, this team suffers and I, for one, think that next year will be time to end this dependence over Kovalev, he starts to slowly slip out of the system. Our team becoming a fast and talented team who focuses on defensive smart play in order to organise offense.
And his constant tentatives of deking the whole team, causing turnovers is definitively not fitting into this team "mold". Also, he is slower than a lot of our forwards. And even Latendresse is faster than him this season
Ok then, I disagree with the entire post.
First of all, the people that think he played poorly in the playoffs last year must be in the same age group as you. 11 points in 12 games? Seriously? That's bad?? He was a leader out there. I was at the game he won in OT against the Bruins with his slapshot from the faceoff circle. The guy was money. Without him we would've been gone first round.
Second of all, he doesn't play 25 mins a game. And as another poster put it, he's put up the same points except less PP points. And the entire team is sucking on the PP, not just him. It's not his fault entirely. You say he tries to do everything himself, and I disagree completely. In fact when I'm watching the games, I don't find he shoots enough at all on the PP! He's always dishing to someone else, far from being selfish. Do me favour - the next game on the PP, count on a piece of paper how many times he passes the puck compared to how many times he shoots. I think you'll be surprised. The only time he tries to deke is when he enters the zone, or there is no lane to pass or shoot. Then really, what other alternative does he have? And by the way, you get all of those assists because you're a good setup man, not because of your icetime. Case in point, Plekanec has the second most icetime of all forwards and only has 9 assists compared to Kovy.
Finally, if your "facts" are true that when Kovy plays bad, the team suffers, well... we have more points at the same point in the year as last year. And I think we finished pretty good last year, so I guess the team is playing pretty well aren't they? I guess that also means according to your "facts" that Kovalev is also playing pretty good.
Bottom line, he's doing very well considering the crappy PP that is snakebitten and all of the injuries we've had.
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