The Official Vincent Lecavalier Thread
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01-13-2009, 03:33 AM
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I would rather offer something like ; Higgings, Plekanec, Laraque, D'Agostini, O'Byrne, Weber, McDonagh and draft picks for Mikko Koivu, Brent Burns and Derek Boogaard than trade for Lecavalier
IF I'm Doug Risebrough, I say no to that. But I want to comment on who is likely to be moved.
Bob Gainey said in today's press conference that young players on the roster who have a chance to become regulars in the next three months will not be moved.
That basically means Pacioretty and d'Agostini and leaves Chipchura as a question mark. I also think that Josh Gorges is as close to untouchable as anyone can be. For SURE, he won't be a throw-in to a deal. The only way he's moved is if he is the key piece going the other way, and the player coming in is signed long-term. I say this because Bob stated at the PC that defence is his main concern. I can't see him weakening the very area he is concerned about unless the return is overwhelming.
Whether it's Mikko or Vinny, the Habs are going to have to send a centreman back the other way. We can't have 5 centremen in the lineup, when we're not not even including Chips. It won't be Saku Koivu in either case. I can't see Robert Lang being a great value to TB if their plan is to rebuild for the future, so he would have to be a throw in to a deal with a significant piece ALREADY going TB's way. Then it's a short-term salary equalizer and TB can let him walk after the season unless he takes a big haircut.
So we're left with Tomas Plekanec or Maxime Lapierre. I think Lapierre has more value to Montreal than to our trading partner. We can't play with only skilled offensive types; we need some grit, too. At the same time, the other team's management can't sell Lapierre as one of the main catches in the deal. Thus logically, Plekanec goes the other way.
Pleks isn't enough from the trading partner's standpoint though. Also, the Habs have a logjam at forward. Thus, the stars are aligned for another young forward to go the other way. I think they would prefer an established guy to someone like Chips, though if we HAD to throw Chips in, I would be ready to do it. But first a bigger piece. I think it has to be Higgins, unless TB (or Minny of course) would think highly enough of Latendresse to send over their best player for him and Pleks and chump change.
I won't go farther in analyzing a Minnesota trade, other than to say that others are free to do so starting with the base I outlined above (Pleks plus Higgins or Tender) and HOPE that Risebrough might bite.
A short-term salary dump should be included if we're dealing with TB. The two main choices are Lang and Tanguay. I think Kovalev HAS to stay until the Cup-seeking effort is over. He is our biggest offensive threat right now. Having him here, especially on a different line than Vinny, will divide the opponents' defensive coverage attention. And at the same time you don't dump your captain when your team is going well and you are trying to ADD and go over the top.
Between Lang and Tanguay, I would prefer to offer Tanguay. From a chemistry POV Lang is more important to our club right now, yet Tanguay probably has more market value and could allow us to get a Paul Ranger type of guy back in the deal (can be #5 or #6 D-man this year and represents depth since there are 3 UFAs on the Habs' blueline).
In any type of rebuildling deal for TB, we have to cough up a significant prospect. Ryan McDonaugh, the American-born defenceman who starred at the WJC might do the trick. Ben Maxwell could also give TB some talented upside. Ryan O'Byrne is available, and might fit in well in TB seeing as he is already quite well known there by both the in-crowd and the authorities. Basically, I would give TB the choice of ANY prospect other than d'Ago, Patches and PK.
Finally, TB will require a first-round pick, and it seems expected to give in to that, but I would want a third-rounder back.
So, to sum up:
To Tampa Bay:
Chris Higgins (or Guillaume Latendresse)
Ryan McDonaugh (or any other prospect excluding Dago, Patches or PK)
First round draft pick 2010
3rd round draft pick 2010
Koivu-S.Kostitsyn-Latendresse (or Higgins)
Once Dandy returns, Chips may have to go down
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