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08-12-2004, 02:27 PM
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Ott = Snott
I disagree.. they've played far too little in the NHL to use their current stats as a judgement of their scoring potential. Ott played 3 years in the OHL, Roy 4.
1999-00 Windsor Spitfires OHL 66 23 39 62 131
2000-01 Windsor Spitfires OHL 55 50 37 87 164
2001-02 Windsor Spitfires OHL 53 43 45 88 178
1999-00 Kitchener Rangers OHL 66 34 53 87 044
2000-01 Kitchener Rangers OHL 65 42 39 81 114
2001-02 Kitchener Rangers OHL 62 43 46 89 092
2002-03 Kitchener Rangers OHL 49 28 50 78 073
Use the Spezza arguement all you like, but the fact remains that Ott still scored more goals without Spezza than Derek Roy ever did in the OHL. Ott has a pretty darn impressive offensive potential, the fact that he can do so much more tends people forget what has him in the NHL in the first place.
I don't see their offensive potential as anything a world a part. I wouldn't be suprised if Ott did better actually. I've been impressed with how decent his hands are, they seem to be better than Morrow's.
Having watched both Roy and Ott in junior, I don't think their offensive potential is that close. Scoring in junior doesn't mean a ton to me because players can put up a ton of points without being that talented.
Take Max Talbot for example. Although he is like Roy in some ways, he's also more like Ott in that while he scored a lot in junior, he doesn't have the pure skills that will translate into scoring line NHL production. I mean, his production in junior wasn't that different from that of Ales Hemsky...because he worked hard, harder than most, and was smarter than the other guys. Talbot possessed a plethora of skills but nothing oustanding, whereas Hemsky was just so good offensively...but they were similar scorers.
From watching Roy, I just see a lot of pure offensive ability. His hands are incredibyl smooth, he's a good skater, and he works well in traffic. Ott scored more because he worked hard, had good but not exceptional skill for a junior player, and was a smart all-round player. Also, Brad Boyes put up similar statistics to Roy and Ott in junior, but was not only a better junior player than both, but is more skilled than Ott, but just less of an all-round player.
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