Predict what Kiprusoff will be awarded
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08-19-2004, 04:52 PM
Vlad The Impaler
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i JUST explained myself, and I think you're being as unclear as i admit i was at first. YOU are making it sound as if a group of arbitrators goes down a list, finds comparable numbers, and throws out a salary. i clarified my earlier statement, so you can probably stop trying to discredit me. besides, it's in your best interest that i'm right. what happens if kiprusoff DOES make 4 million dollars? what happens if iginla wants 9? is a team that's not exactly a high-roller going to pay 13 million dollars between two players? you might be disappointed.
But FDW is right, though. Your statement was bordering on misinformation.
Arbitrators are not exactly hockey genius. They are halfway between taking what the player has accomplished and looking at numbers across the league. That's what they do. And the recent wave of goalie contracts WILL play a huge roll.
It seems like you have this idea that they will look at his worth as a player only. That's not what an arbitrator does and that is why in years past more defensive players rarely went in arbitration. because they new these guys were complete tools looking at stats and awards and finding a match in the league.
This is also why players like Stillman loves those process. Still man is an excellent example of a player who is worth more on paper than he does in reality.
An arbitrator is going to look at Kipper's stats and this is going to be pretty hardcore evidence for him. Then he'll weigh in different factors (like the fact Kipper has only performed well for a limited amount of time, something the Flames wills stress) and then Kipper's camp is going to present a series of goalie signings. Theo and Giguere are going to be mentioned repeatedly.
When the Habs signed that wuss to that awful contract, they hugely contributed to salary inflation. It is garanteed to benefit Kipper, although to which extent remains to be seen.
You make it sound like those guys are hockey men. They are not, even though some of them can be linked to hockey. They are much more likely to ponder on arguments that could be downright scary. Such as this one:
In the last 5 years, which #1 goalie who went to the SC finals earned the lowest salary the following year?
Then calgary will counter with arguments of their own and a decision will be taken.
It's not like this tool is going to watch videos, you know. He is going to look at numbers, especially salaries of comparable players.
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