The Official we don't need Briere thread
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02-23-2009, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by
The +/- statistic isn't flawed at all...it represents EXACTLY what it says it represents, what is the total when you calculate goals for and against whilst you were on the ice.
I know what it is, but it's not accurate. It's flawed and misleading.
Where do i begin? First off its an individual stat when it should be a team stat. Every player on the ice gets a minus or a plus when a goal is scored even the players that aren't involved in the play. If one player makes a huge mistake that ends up being a goal, the other players get a minus for it too.
Example: Briere can have a shift where he intercepts a pass in the neutral zone, does a nice give n go with richards and hits the post, then gets his own rebound and sets up another scoring chance. Only to have the puck go back the other way where jones makes a mistake ( lol
) and the puck ends up in the net. Briere is -1
Or how about when a player goes to make a change and someone hops on in his place and a goal gets scored? Does the player who just came on deserve to get the + or a -? A player can make a breakout pass from is own zone, skate to the bench for a change, then a goal gets scored. The player gets and assist, but not +1... The player who replaced him on the ice gets credited with it.
So please explain to me how the stat isn't flawed... Everybody acts like its a tell all stat when trying to see if a player is any good. When it clearly isn't.
Originally Posted by
Clutch doesn't exist...
You're taking it literally. Clutch is just a term that refers to a player who performs well, elevates their play and shows up during big games. As a flyer fan i don't need to start naming names, but im sure you can think of a few players who've played on the team and who "disappeared" during the playoffs. That's Not clutch.
Briere is a proven playoff performer. He's Clutch. It's just a saying. There's not stat to prove if someone is or isn't clutch.
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