Jack Johnson for Jordan Staal in the offseason
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03-07-2009, 01:10 PM
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Sounds to me that you dislike Staal's style so much that you're completely blinded to his actual effectiveness and productivity.
The fact that you're all over Okposo, Mueller, and Johnson yet trying to downplay everything Staal's accomplished is testimony to your willful ignorance.
Your posts look silly now for disregarding what's plainly visible, and they're going to look absolutely absurd later. I hope you stick around to see it through.
again I WATCH him play... I'm not robotic pittburgh fan who'd accept jack the ripper as my no 1 centre purely because he belonged to "my team". I've heard that same "defensive" crap for years now. Again,.. dominic moore was a far superior defensive player to staal.. if that's what was holding the pens back then they should've kept moore and traded staal for a more offensive player.
Nick Foligno (OTT) is a superior skater and hustles his ASS off! If you where looking for a defensive guy who'd hustle his behind off for you, kill penalties, block shots and generally give his heart for the team then THAT's the model for you. Plus line him up with crosby/malkin et al and I gurantee he'd get 20 goals a year too.
You DON'T draft a defensive forward that high... never been done as far as I remember. The players might end up that way (bobby carpenter) due to injuries or lack of production.. but I HIGHLY doubt that in a draft that featured KESSEL OKPOSO, TOEWS BRASSARD MUELLER BACKSTROM et al.. , the pens took one look at the roster and said.. "ooh look! there's that big bird lookin' defensive kid... I like him!"
Nonesense! You haven't countered ANY of my points. Instead you've whinned and cried about how mean my post was to a player on "your team" THAT'S how you prove I'm wrong? Then remind me never to get into an argument about global warming with you
I can't be BLIND to a player i've watched more consistently that ANYONE else from the 06 draft. Again, I challenge you to state ONE single incident involving jordan staal showing that same "swag" that guys like okposo, toews and johnson do. That's the kind of swag that kept a guy like marting st louis in the hunt for success,.. made mark savard refuse to give up till he BECAME a number one centre...
Just by watching any of the above players you'll see them giving blood sweat and tears to succeed. Staal? cruise control. last year when malkin ran out of gas in an inopportuned time, did STAAL step up? hell no... You do not draft a guy NUMBER TWO overall because he's a nice kid, or can kill penalties.. never ever EVER! That stupid argument should've been disproven by how ordinary his "defensive" play has been. Where is he in the scoring for short handed goals? When's the last time you heard him being even considered for the selke? or discussed by ANY single NHL player as a defensive threat?
go ahead.. I'll wait.
again.. nice kid.. wish him all the best, but someone let LA know I've got my bucket and squeegee ready for that Johnson trade
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