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07-20-2009, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Ward Cornell View Post
Of the players that I've seen play a substantial amount of time here's my list. Please note that a lot of the USSR defencemen is left off this list since my viewing of them were a tourney once a year. While others such as Red Kelly I did see play defence for the Wings but I was too young back then to back a fair analysis. While with Harvey he was far beyond his prime!

1. Bobby Orr


2. Larry Robinson
3. Denis Potvin
4. Raymond Bourque
5. Nicklas Lidstrom
6. Scott Stevens
7. Brad Park
8. Al Macinnis
9. Borje Salming
10. Rod Langway
11. Chris Chelios
12. Paul Coffey
13. Pierre Pilote
14. Tim Horton
15. Bill Gadsby
16. Al Macinnis
17. Brian Leetch
18. Bill White
19. Pat Stapleton
20. Carl Brewer

Even though I placed numbers beside the players they are so close together that through 10 to 20 they could be reversed of what I have it I couldn't complain.

I just don't see how people can rate players that they really havent seen.
I think you're greatly underrating Chelios. Incredible peak (three Norris trophies against insane competition) and incredible longevity (Norris runner-up at 39) puts him way above Salming and Langway. And I think he has a clear, though not huge, edge on Park, Stevens and MacInnis (who you have listed twice, BTW). I'd take him over Robinson, personally, though just barely.

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