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07-22-2009, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by
Potvin has also lost to much
competition for the Norris than Lidstrom has.
Are Robinson, Carlysle, Wilson, Langway, Coffey, Chelios and Leetch better than Lidstrom as well? Because they won a Norris against "much tougher competition"?
The league is currently approaching the deepest (talent-wise) it has ever been since the Original 6. The 70s was quite simply a watered-down era with very little parity, and teams nowadays do not get to enjoy consistently beating up on teams like the Canucks, Blues, Rockies, Capitals, North Stars and Barons -- and then the Nordiques, Whalers and Jets in the early 80s -- all of whom were lucky to get more than 20 wins back then. Even the Red Wings at that time would register less than 10 wins in a season.
Top teams (like the Islanders) kicked the crap out of these teams and boosted their stats into the stratosphere.
The "competition" argument works both ways.
Sigh...... Not this ridiculous argument again. Are you going to try to pretend that Lidstrom did not help his own scoring against the weaker teams of his era?
In any case, Potvin brought his A game against the best teams.
Using only Montreal and Philly for 3 seasons between 1976-79(2 of THE greatest defensive teams in History), Potvin scored:
Philly: 8 Goals and 10 Assists in 20 games.
Montreal: 6 goals and 9 assists in 12 games.'
Total 14 goals and 19 assists in 32 games for 33 points in 32 games.
And this is only from 2 of the best defensive teams in History. What exactly do the modern teams have that these superteams did not? The devils may, MAY be comparable slightly to Philly during this timeframe, but no other team from Lidstrom's time compares to the Montreal Dynasty.
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