Round 2, Vote 2 (2009 update)
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08-04-2009, 08:40 AM
Join Date: Nov 2007
Smoke and Mirrors
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+/- at face value is statistical snake oil.
Another way of looking at it is top ten finishes. (Needless to say, Orr kills everyone, but, comparing d-men to Orr is unfair.)
Potvin: 2nd, 5th and 6th
Robinson: 1st, 2nd, 4th, 6th, 6th and 7th
Lidstrom: 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd and 7th
Looks a lot different in that light, no?
But even then, I wouldn't put much into plus minus...
Now you are assuming that goals do not matter. Forget the rankings which is a blatant attempt at smoke and mirrors.
Bottom line is that Larry Robinson at even strength was on the ice for a + 309 differential in goals over Niklas Lidstrom. This is huge.Contributes greatly to winning.
Just like Patrick Roy WON app 160 more regular season games and 86 more playoff games(2.36 times as much 151 vs 65) over his career when compared to Dominik Hasek.
Bottom line is "Which team won?" and Lidstrom and Hasek fall short with contributing reasons cited.
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