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09-13-2009, 10:29 PM
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salzy
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Lindros and Hargrove et al are widely perceived to be a joke
I asked you to tell us specifically what makes them "a joke" but you are unable. Like so many others, all you are able to do is vaguely question their character on a personal level. Without anything of substance to back it up, it's simply a red herring.

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as long as any of them are involved in the union they won't be taken seriously by the NHL, the media, or the majority of fans. They should have been walking into the next CBA negotiation in a position to wrench some concessions from the owners.
Nonsense. It's impossible for you to say whether their position is stronger or weaker. None of us even know who will be leading them in their negotiations.

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Now it looks like it might be the other way around. Think the PR war doesn't matter? Think again. The players lost it in a major way last time, and it was a big reason that the owners were able to shut down the league for a whole season but see very little backlash. Instead the backlash went against the players, who were accused of being greedy.
That's all true, but none of it has anything to do with why the players buckled. They didn't buckle because people like you and me might have been calling them greedy. They buckled because none of them wanted to go another 12 months without a cheque.

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The NHLPA is responsible for protecting the salaries of their players to a tune of over $1.5 billion.
The difference between that and "a compnay with annual revenues of $1.5 billion" is approximately 1.5 billion miles.

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When the union has the kind of power to cut 24% of salaries across the board (a concession that Goodenowe actually agreed to), they need to have top notch leadership at the union. The general perception was that they had that with Kelly. Now??
It doesn't matter what the "general perception" was. The perception of the player reps - those charged by ALL the members with making the decisions for ALL the members - is that the "general perception" was wrong.

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