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09-21-2003, 09:37 AM
Yosemite Sam
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Originally Posted by speeds
if we are using McKeens, then it's no question that they have Luoma ahead of Bergeron.

their projections:

Bergeron: 27 GP 1-3 for 4 points

Luoma: 75 GP 3-24 for 27 points, 2nd highest of all Oilers D.

as for skating, I have to wonder how much stock EDM puts into it for their D, I mean, they signed Cory Cross to a 3 year deal. I get what you're saying, that no one wants too many of these guys. But Luoma's more polished, Bergeron likely won't be hurt by being the #1 in TOR for 20 games or so, I'm sure they'd like to see what Luoma can do at the NHL level.

There is also the possibility that they simply go 13 F and 8D for awhile, and send both Sarno and Wright down.
I don't get how Luoma can really be seen as a better D-man than Bergeron, especially in the offence department, which is the current pressing need.

Luoma is 27 years old - here are his stats:
1998-99 JyP HT Jyvaskyla FNL 53 2 8 10
1999-00 JyP HT Jyvaskyla FNL 51 2 6 8
2000-01 Tappara Tampere FNL 56 10 11 21
2001-02 Tappara Tampere FNL 56 11 18 29
2002-03 Tappara Tampere FNL 55 4 13 17

Let's take a look at Bergeron (he's turning 23 next month):
1997-98 Baie-Comeau Drakkar QMJHL 40 6 14 20
1998-99 Baie-Comeau Drakkar QMJHL 46 8 14 22
1998-99 Shawinigan Cataractes QMJHL 24 6 7 13
1999-00 Shawinigan Cataractes QMJHL 70 24 50 74
2000-01 Shawinigan Cataractes QMJHL 69 42 59 101
2001-02 Hamilton Bulldogs AHL 50 2 13 15
2002-03 Hamilton Bulldogs AHL 66 8 31 39
2002-03 Edmonton Oilers NHL 5 1 1 2

At MA's current age, Luoma was putting up 8 points in 51 games in Finland. Not exactly something to write home about. ANd now at 27, he should be "peaking." Doesn't instill confidence here.

MA has steadily improved at every level of play (not to mention he won the award for best D in the CHL one year).

Also, people keep bringing up the size issue with MA. What size issue? He's over 200lbs! He may be a little short, but players will tell you that a player with low centre of gravity like that is even harder to push around than a guy of the same weight and taller.

I think MA will step in and make his mark. Bye bye Luoma.

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