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12-10-2009, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by orcatown View Post

3. So you bet every organization hires ex-players. So what you are saying is that every organization indulges in cronyism. My bet is that good organization make sure the key jobs are done by people who have expertise in the area they are required to have it in. Sure they hire ex-players for PR and such but you look at good organizations and you will see they make sure the key positions are covered off.
just to expand on what LMG replied to... let's take a top organization as an example... whenever someone thinks of the top organizations in the league, the first team on most people's minds is Detroit:

General Manager: Ken Holland - the last 3 years of his playing career in Detroit's system.

Vice President: Steve Yzerman - career wing, expected to take over as team's GM eventually.

Assistant GM: Jim Nill - finished his pro career with Detroit, where he spent the last 5 seasons of that career between their pro and farm team.

assistant coaches:

Paul MacLean - played 76 games for the Redwings - same category as basically Walter and Gagner for the Canucks - 2 of only 3 hirings that Gillis has made of former Canucks at any time.

Brad McCrimmon - 3 seasons with the wings


Mark Howe - director of pro scouting - last 3 NHL years in Detroit.

Pat Verbeek - 2 seasons in Detroit

Glenn Merkosky - half his pro career in the Detroit system. Retired with their farm team.


Piet Van Zant - top trainer - 6 years in Detroit's AHL system, joined staff after retiring from that same system.

and this isn't unique to Detroit, largely considered one of the top organizations in the league... you'll find the same thing in many other organizations... another top rated organization for example is the Devils:

assistant coaches: Tommy Albelin and Scott Stevens

all 3 coaches in their farm system: John McLean (head coach), Kevin Dean and Chris Terreri all former Devils

you can go through any of the top teams in the league and you'll see the same thing over and over... teams across the board prefer to hire staff that have had some connections at some point with that organization.

So since you've been harping on the Canucks here for hiring a former Canuck to fill a minor role with the team, surely this should be a much bigger problem in Detroit, where their top 3 managers - GM, AGM and VP are all former Wings, along with their head of scouting, and 2 of their 4 assistant coaches?

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