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12-18-2009, 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by BM67 View Post
Roy played 10 series against teams with sub-500 records. Hasek played 2 series against sub-500 teams (one in Chicago where he was the backup, and one in Buffalo where he was injured), and Brodeur only 1.

Roy - NYR 78 pts in 86; Que 72 pts in 87; Hfd 77 pts in 88; Hfd 79 pts in 89; Hfd 65 pts in 92; Van 79 pts in 96; Chi and Edm 81 pts in 97; Edm 80 pts in 98; SJ 80 pts in 99
The Rangers made it to the Conference Finals, and were not even in the Canadiens' division, meaning that if anything, the Patrick Division was weak and the Adams was not.

Hayward played the Quebec series (Roy lost Game One and Hayward started in all but one other game in the playoffs). Either way, Quebec made it to that round by knocking out a 93 point team in Hartford, and there were no non-playoff teams in the Eastern Conference with more points than them, so their appearance in the playoffs has nothing to do with a divisional system.

Hartford in 1988 (where Roy only earned three wins), sure, but as the best team in the Eastern Conference, Montreal would've been playing the 36-win Rangers instead of the 35-win Whalers in a non-divisional playoff, so there's not much of a difference there.

Hartford in 1989 were legitimately the eighth best team, and as the #1 seed, Montreal would've gotten them no matter what. Roy was only started in 3 games against them (all wins).

1992, I agree with completely.

The rest were in the non-divisional playoffs, so they are completely outside of TDMM's original assertion. Yeah, Roy played some bum teams past 1994, but only because Colorado was consistently a division winner from 1996-2003 largely because of him. That doesn't count as a generational advantage.

If you want to take out his series against the Rangers, 88 Whalers, and 92 Whalers for kicks and giggles, his playoff record would be 140-89. Still unreachable.

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