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01-02-2010, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Kind of Blue View Post
By the way, before Tortorella showed up, did we have an issue where players didn't work hard and were considered spoiled? I don't remember that. There were always the knocks on Gomez and Drury because they made the most money and their production wasn't great, but in general this was considered a hard working, "lunch pail"-type team, that maybe didn't have so much talent but made up for it by working hard, working as a team and doing the little things. There is a tie in here to my unpopular Sjostrom-Betts-Orr thread; we definitely lost some of these qualities with guys like that. But I'm not ready to say all of a sudden in one year the culture has changed so much and we have a bunch of spoiled guys on this team.
According to Torts we did. I remember one of his first interviews...he was talking about how the players conditioning STUNK and how they were spoiled, etc.

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