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When I see people needing Lundqvist to win a Cup in order to be taken seriously, I remember people not taking Hasek seriously despite his being the best in the game (until Detroit) and Ray Bourque being criticized for never winning a Cup with Boston. Anyone who didn't think Bourque was one of the greatest dmen of all-time had no business commenting on the sport.
Lundqvist needs a fairly lengthy career to be considered great. That is what is missing from his resume. If he also gets a Cup and continues at this skill level, this whole discussion will be laughable.
While it is difficult to compare across eras and generations, I also put Giacomin ahead of Richter.
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