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02-20-2010, 01:35 PM
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Howe won 4 Stanley Cups in his 193 Year Career, 6 Hart trophies, All Star teams, blah blahblah sounds good right? Too bad there were 6 teams and even less teams than what Kharlamov had to compete against.
The Ussr league had around 9 teams. He led his championship team in points nearly every year.
You claim the USSR league was weaker? Why did the Soviet Union (Basically USSR league all stars) win every Super Series against NHL All Star teams?
Kharlamov played in a more advanced time. Howe only played against other Canucks.
Howe accomplished nothing Internationally, and I mean nothing. No Olympic competition understood, but still. It was a time when the NHL was afraid to play against the Soviets.
-11 time USSR championship
-8 WC Winner
-2 Time OLY. Gold Medalist (We'll talk about '80 a different day.)
-USSR League MVP 1972, 1973
-USSR All Star Team 1971-1976, 1978
-Scoring champion (goals) 1971
-Scoring champion (points) 1972
-IIHF All Star: 1972, 1973, 1975, 1976
-Inducted into Hockey Hall of Fame in 2005
By the way Canadians, If it weren't for Bobby Clarke fracturing Kharlamov's ankle in game 6, you lose the Summit Series.
The 6 team argument has been beaten to death. The league still had the worlds best players, so throwing 600 more guys into the league would have made the slightest difference in finishes for stats and awards.
The Super League was weaker as a whole. The top-end talent was on par, for the most part, with the top talent in the NHL, Kharlamov included. But once you start getting into 2nd, 3rd and 4th liners, its not comparison.
As for stats, Kharlamov lead his own league in scoring 1 time. That's right, once, to go along with two MVPs. Howe dominated the best league in the world for two decades. Now you may disagree, but IMO, throwing a few top-end Europeans from Howes time into the NHL doesn't change a thing.
Oh, and about the ankle, IF Clarke doesn't slash Kharlamov, we might have lost the series. He did though, and Canadian was victorious. IF won't get you very far when comparing all-time greats.
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