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02-06-2005, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by NYFAN
Teamsters local 812. Soft drink and brewery workers. I agree that the NHLPA has nothing in common with us, but the principal of the matter is the same. I work for coca cola, a giant company if there ever was one. Last contract, they manipulated their way into forcing the new drivers to become commision based. I am an hourly employee, I get paid while waiting to check in my truck, verifying my load, adjusting it etc. I was against that contract because , to be fair , I feel all drivers deserve the same compensation regardless when they came on board. Their big argument was that they could not afford to compensate drivers in the same way any more. THAT WAS the BIG LIE that they used as a scare tactic to pass the contract. Now that they have these commision based drivers, who do you think gets the tight routes and short travel to their delivery areas? So now when our next contract comes up, they will try to force commision down everyones throat! They can produce numbers to justify that their system works, but they aren't real numbers since the commision routes are specifically targeted to produce big numbers. In the meantime, this company is still very poorly managed and operated, and they talk the talk(putting our people first) but they sure don't walk the walk! They continue to seasonally lay off drivers and warehouseworkers, while bumbling on in management, and having no corresponding layoff in management. I've rambled far too long off topic already, but you get my point hopefully. The NHL has done a magnificent job of manipulating a report, not an audit, to justify their stance in this lockout. And for all you pro ownership folks, think about all the players whose careers barely even get off the ground and they are tossed aside and forgotten like a piece of spoiled meat. The physical toll on most NHL players over time, can not be over looked as to their amount of compensation. These players are gifted athletes who burn bright and fast for a very short time in the scheme of life, so to compare them to a regular job really isn't fair. Many live their entire lives in pain and on medication. I agree that a select few are making an obscene amount of money, but the vast majority, will never make enough from hockey to never work again, and that same vast majority are the guys in the trenches, takingone for the team, only to live in constant pain after their careers are over. Any player who crosses the line would be an absolute fool.

yes absolutley anyone who crosses the line would be a fool, but i wouldnt put it past to happen and if it does , hey man its NHL hockey--- in a sense---. I will watch just about any hockey on these days.

By the way Teamsters very good Union, great benefits and pension. My father is 29 years in with UPS ( Teamsters LOCAL 804 ) driving 18 wheelers/boxtrucks whatever and when retiring has a sweet $3,200 a month pension check coming every month. He just got my brother in and he is doing part time, because he just graduated 4 years of Hunter college with a degree in psycology and is 24 and is losing his benefits so he needed the job for benefits. Though it is not forever he will be going for his masters and PHD in psycology a total of 10 years of school.Alot of work and im damn proud of him.

Also no offense I like Pepsi better.

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