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03-19-2010, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by superroyain10 View Post
Revisionist history.

Boyes at the time was not one of the better center prospects in the league. He was a potential 2nd-line center. People were comparing him to a pre-San Jose Alyn McCauley.

DW wants to give his team the best chance to win. The Brown trade didn't do much to help this team, but the fact that he traded away a prospect that wouldn't have made the SJ roster for a chance at a SC is commendable.

Collecting shiny prospects does nothing to help you win. Your idea of how to win a Cup is ridiculous; as if that is what all great teams do, maintain a roster from year to year until 5-10 years later that same roster wins a cup. Every successful roster makes changes. Huges changes sometimes. Heck, Pittsburgh's only constants are Gonchar, Malkin, Crosby, Staal, and Fleury. They traded Esposito and got Hossa; I am sure you thought that was a horrible trade, yet that trade got them to the SC final and gave the team valuable experience.

Revisionist history? " a prospect that wouldn't have made the SJ roster "??

From the Sports Illustrated article announcing the trade:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/hoc...olan_leafs_ap/
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Boyes was the Leafs' first choice, 24th overall, in the 2000 draft. He is considered the top prospect in the Maple Leafs' system, and the Sharks were happy to acquire another speedy young forward for Nolan.
For other thoughts on the deal, here are two quick results from a random google search:
http://tosportsfan.blogspot.com/2006...lan-trade.html
http://www.battleofcali.com/2009/11/...ber-brad-boyes

When the Sharks got Boyes he put up 64 points in 80 AHL games (combined St. John's and Cleveland). The next year he had 60 points in 61 AHL games before the Sharks traded him, and then another 12 points in 17 games with P. Bruins. And then 75 points in 80 AHL games with the P. Bruins before moving up the NHL full time.

He had 69 points his rookie season in the NHL. "Slumped" to 46 points the year he was traded to St. Louis. And then proceeded to put up 65 (43 goals) and 72 (33 goals) points on a rebuilding St. Louis team.

In what world of yours does trading a top prospect, a guy who had given EVERY indication that he would be both a playmaker and a scorer, for a 2nd-line center with one career 20+ goal season make a team better? There are good trades, and there a stupid trades. Good trades move excess, non-critical players for guys who will help you now. Stupid trades move your future key players for crap-shoot role players now.

If the Sharks had kept Boyes, there is at least a good chance that they would never had made the trade for Thornton, thus eliminating your thought on DW's key mistake. If the Sharks had kept Boyes they could have had Marleau, Boyes, and Pavelski down the middle for the last couple of years. Or they could have moved Boyes to the wing where he's been playing. Add on that Boyes only cost $4 million to sign (less than even Michalek cost) and you would have to be crazy to not think trading him was a mistake of epic proportions.

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