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Originally Posted by Big Phil
Kelly was traded in 1960. Lindsay in 1957. It was more of an immediate drop when Ted left. Put it this way, I have always looked at it this way. As great as Howe and Gretzky were they never won without Lindsay and Messier. Now I don't want to look into it too much since Howe > Lindsay and Gretzky > Messier, but there were some intangibles these guys brought to the table that were sorely missed when they left.
The Wings also never won with Hall after Sawchuk left (briefly) and when he returned the team was a different make up especially with losing Lindsay. So it wasn't ALL about Lindsay being gone but without a doubt that was a loss the Wings never recovered from IMO
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The wings had kind of been falling anyway. Habs had won the cup in 55-56 & 56-57. Ted had a great year in 56-57 yet Wings were beat by boston in the semis. In his first year with Chicago, Ted dropped from 85 points to 39 & the Hawks missed the playoffs so maybe Adams was right. Ted had a bit of a rebirth the next year on a line with Sloan & litzenberger and then dropped to 26 points in his final Hawks season.
It looks like ted was pretty much finished after 56-57.