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02-14-2005, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Patrick - Flames Fan
So what you are saying is that Havlat can only score on the PP because of his linemates? Then he only had 38 points in 68 games EV and going through that list again, many of them still had big name guys helping him. To put his EV points into prespective, Sean Donovan scored 42 points as a third liner and is no where near as talented as Havlat and only 5 of his points came from the PP. Without the PP, Havlat would not have come close to a PPG. I just want to point that out because many people don't realize that 1/2 his points came from the PP.
Yeah, he's a fraud. Chris Neil would score a PPG on our PP.
Have you ever looked at the scoring leaders? ... Because it seems like your eyes have been opened for the first time. "OMG, Havlat scored a lot of his points on the PP!!!"
This season, Hossa (39 pts) and Alfredsson(38 pts) were among the PP leaders. Mainly because Jacques has apparently been switching to a more specialized system. Slowly, but surely PP time has been increasing for our best players. However, if you actually take the time to look... our #1 unit is still quite a bit behind some other teams in PP time.
Last season, Naslund had 54 PP points and Bertuzzi 42. Did you know that? It's quite normal. 1st line players score more than 3rd liners ES and get PP time.

Sean Donovan... had more ES points than Satan, Weight, Kovalev, Kozlov, Rolston, Nagy, Prospal, R.Nash, etc.

Last season: Jason Blake had more ES points than Iginla, Gomez, Gaborik, Satna, Selanne, Elias, Roenick, Sakic, Kozlov, Havlat, Sundin, Jokenin, Doan, B.Richards, Yashin, Sykora, Comrie, Tkachuk, Lindros.

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