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06-09-2010, 09:44 AM
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MathMan
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You mean like Brian Campbell? or Glenn Wesley? Eric Desjardins maybe? or P.K. Subban? Teams that win Cups have much more than one top defenceman.
None of those guys are actually true #1 D-men, except maybe Campbell. Subban may yet get there, and I do think he will... but he might not.

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Well now, that's ridiculous. Plenty of young prospects of that caliber have spent some time in the minors: Subban, Wright, Alzner, Carlson, Sutter, Neal, Turris... all need(ed) a little bit more experience before making it to the Big Leagues. Not every talented youngster can play immediately in the NHL.
But once they're able to get to the Show, they don't stick in the minors, either -- which was my point. You're acting as if the Habs have practically no talent in the pipeline. They do, they just need a bit more experience before making it to the Big Leagues.

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Replace Markov with Niskanen, Carlson or Alzner and your defense is above average for years to come.
Maybe. Four years from now.

In the meantime, your D is below average, and that means a non-competitive team. So really, you're doing a rebuild by doing that.

Honestly, I'm getting vibes of the HFBoards credo of "youth over proven NHL skill" from you. Do you realize that you can't have a prospect just walk in and do Markov's job, the toughest on the team, on a regular basis?

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Oh! But I've seen worse. Some poster for instance, going into a diatribe, using conjectures and contradictions to try to invalidate a system that generated success, and using mere statistics as opposed to in-game analysis to determine success being based on pure luck. You have got to see that one!
I fail to see how that is worse. What's worse is people that keep screaming "but that's not what happened" when presented with clear factual evidence that their perceptions are incorrect, or imagine a fluke Cinderella playoff run as repeatable "success" (those people are going to be sorely disappointed, methinks).

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